Touchpad Tap Clicking Broken (scrolling also)

Vertical scrolling works on my laptop as usual,
horizontal scroll doesn't.

Like the forum discussion states, "synclient tapbutton1=1" enables tapping for some.

using "synclient horizedgescroll=1" horizontal scroll acts like an vertical one.
But that may just be an malformed command...

Thank you for your bug report. It seems upstream are using different GConf keys for the touchpad settings now, so gnome-mouse-properties is modifying the wrong keys. We need to port gnome-mouse-properties to the new keys and also make sure gnome-settings-daemon migrates existing configs.

I don't have a touchpad to test this on, although I can largely test the profile migration. Will one of you test this once I've worked on it?

Chris,

I can test it ... and I'm sure others will also support you.

btw: I was wrong ... vertical scrolling does work ... i can use a small area on the right side of my
touchpad.

This is actually already fixed upstream in g-c-c, and will be in the 2.27.4 upload

Hmm, something new I just noticed: the latest gnome-settings-daemon FORCES me to choose either two-finger scrolling OR edge-scrolling, and does not allow both -- thus overriding my preference I have set in a custom FDI file! In addition, it's not content to just reset the settings once.... it does it over and over and over again. Can we please add a third possible value for the gconf key?
/desktop/gnome/peripherals/touchpad/vert_scroll_delta
Current values:
0 - disabled.
1 - edge.
2 - two-finger.
3 - DOES NOT EXIST, should be "both".

If we can't do that, then I'll have to find another way to make Gnome keep its "grubby little hands" off the thing, to use a figure of speech.

er, correction: key is "scroll_method".

Dana - this bug is about making gnome-mouse-properties work with the new gnome-settings-daemon, and making sure that existing configs are migrated correctly. If you have issues with the options available, then please open a separate bug report at http://bugzilla.gnome.org/ .

@Dana Goyette
This is a fairly broken hack but you can work around that setting by setting the gconf key to 1 and then enabling horizontal scrolling in gpointing-device-settings

Changing the key got tap-to-click working again for me :-)

It works!

http://sarvatt.com/downloads/sheworks!.png

Recompiled g-c-c with this commit:

http://git.gnome.org/cgit/gnome-control-center/commit/?id=e14a84a718d9882d320de1f359c0547836a9b4e3

Hey Robert,
I am a newby to Linux. Can you help me with the steps to recompiled G-C-C with the commit codes to fix the broken touchpad click.
What do I do...? I have no clue...is the a how to link for this for us newby to Linux..?

Thanks in advance.
Frank

Frank, you can simply use the gconf configuration editor to enable it. Hit alt-f2, run gconf-editor.

Go to desktop/gnome/peripherals/touchpad and check the tap to click box.

Jon, thank you so much, work perfect. Hey you need to post this on Ubuntu, because when I did the search for this, there were alot of people looking for this answer. Thanks again.

Glad it worked. It is post 13 in the UbuntuForums topic linked in this bug report.

This bug was fixed in the package gnome-control-center - 1:2.27.4.1-0ubuntu1

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gnome-control-center (1:2.27.4.1-0ubuntu1) karmic; urgency=low

  * New upstream version (LP: #400156):
    - About me:
      + New icons for fingerprint screen (Michael Langlie).
      + EXTRA_DIST fingerprint icons (Rodrigo Moya).
    - Appearance:
      + Migrate to GtkBuilder (Thomas Wood).
      + Remove custom cell renderers (Thomas Wood).
    - At-properties:
      + Remove libglade depency from at-properties capplet (Felix Riemann).
    - Common:
      + Automatically generate .gitignore files with git.mk (Thomas Wood).
    - Default applications:
      + Remove libglade dep from default-applications capplet (Felix Riemann).
    - Display:
      + Remove libglade dependency from display-properties capplet
        (Felix Riemann).
    - Keybindings:
      + Remove libglade dependency from keybindings capplet (Felix Riemann).
    - Mouse:
      + Support touchpad configuration through device properties
        (Peter Hutterer) (LP: #404219).
    - Network:
      + Remove libglade dependency from gnome-network-properties
        (Felix Riemann).
    - Shell:
      + Fix libslab for single includes in GTK+ (Thomas Wood).
    - Typing break:
      + Use GtkUIManager to replace GtkItemFactory (Thomas Hindoe
        Paaboel Andersen).
    - Windows:
      + Strip libglade dependency from gnome-window-properties (Felix Riemann).
  * Patches ported from GladeXML to GtkBuilder:
    - 100_at_properties_readd_gksudo_disable_grab_toggle.patch
    - 111_screen_resolution_vendor_fallback.patch
    - 50_ubuntu_systemwide_prefs.patch
    - 92_display_properties_fit_small_screen.patch
    - 95_desktop-effects-integration.patch
  * Other refreshed patches:
    - 109_screen_resolution_extra.patch
    - 110_screen_resolution_package.patch
    - 25_window_manager_settings.patch
    - 71_at_properties_gksudo_gdmsetup.patch
    - 80_aspect_in_dropdown.patch
    - 90_gnome-mouse-properties_small_screen.patch
    - 97_subpixel_hinting_defaults.patch
    - 98_polkit1.patch
    - 99_autoreconf.patch
  * Dropped patches merged upstream:
    - 26_add_touchpad_to_mouse_settings.patch
    - 28_fixup_touchpad_config.patch
    - 75_fix_ftbfs.patch

 -- Chris Coulson <email address hidden> Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:34:44 +0100

This bug was fixed in the package gnome-settings-daemon - 2.27.5-0ubuntu1

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gnome-settings-daemon (2.27.5-0ubuntu1) karmic; urgency=low

  * New upstream version (LP: #405698):
    - Only use applicable configurations for switching with the XF86Display
      hotkey (Federico Mena Quintero)
    - Only use applicable configurations when auto-configuring outputs
      during hotplug (Federico Mena Quintero)
    - Really lay out displays from left to right when using the XF86Display
      hotkey (Federico Mena Quintero)
    - For the XF86Display hotkey, preserve the cycle order when
      sanitizing the configurations (Federico Mena Quintero)
    - Remove last libglade dependency (Felix Riemann)
    - Improved low disk space warning (Chris Coulson) (#573980)
    - Fix compiler warnings (Jens Granseuer)
  * debian/control:
    - Removed libglade build-dep.
    - gnome-settings-daemon recommends Pulseaudio.
  * debian/gnome-settings-daemon.install:
    - Updated - there are no glade files to install anymore.
  * Dropped debian/patches/50_ldsm_notification.patch:
    - Merged upstream.
  * Refreshed patches:
    - 02_fix_randr.patch.
    - 16_use_synchronous_notifications.patch.
    - 60_ldsm_notification_fixup.patch.
    - 90_autoreconf.patch.
  * debian/patches/70_migrate_touchpad_config.patch,
    debian/gnome-settings-daemon.gconf-defaults:
    - Ensure that touchpad settings are migrated to the new
      config where appropriate (LP: #404219).

 -- Chris Coulson <email address hidden> Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:47:37 +0100

I'm not convinced this is fixed properly -- I upgraded from Jaunty to Karmic yesterday and found that my click and scroll settings had not been migrated properly. I got 2.27.5 when I upgraded. I notice that .90 is available now; I'm not sure how to go about testing again, but I can very easily pull my old configuration files out of git if they might help.

Hmm, I have a fresh install of alpha-5 on my testing partition and "Touchpad -> General -> Enable mouse clicks with touchpad" is disabled. Shouldn't at least this one be enabled by default?

> Shouldn't at least this one be enabled by default?

no, not enabling it is a choice since it's confusing behaviour and too easy to trigger by error

Um, really? I'd consider tap-to-click to be a basic touchpad feature that would annoy more people by having it missing.

I have to agree with Max. Tap-to-click is "confusing behavior?" It is confusing to try to tap your touchpad, have it not click, be new to the operating system and not know where to look to change the setting. This would be a huge "papercut" if you ask me.

Don't some laptops (I think macs specifically) not have a mouse button?

On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Max Bowsher <email address hidden> wrote:
> Um, really? I'd consider tap-to-click to be a basic touchpad feature
> that would annoy more people by having it missing.
>
> --
> Touchpad Tap Clicking Broken (scrolling also)
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/404219
> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> of a duplicate bug.
>
> Status in “gnome-control-center” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released
> Status in “gnome-settings-daemon” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released
>
> Bug description:
> Binary package hint: gnome-settings-daemon
>
> the gnome-settings-daemon update (2.27.3-0ubuntu2) disabled these touchpad functions:
>
> - no tap clicking
> - no vertical/horizontal scrolling
>
> Other people have the same problem:
>
> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1221888
>
> Touchpad settings in xorg.conf or via HAL don't fix the problem. (see attached HAL configuration file)
>
> ProblemType: Bug
> Architecture: i386
> Date: Fri Jul 24 18:34:16 2009
> DistroRelease: Ubuntu 9.10
> Package: gnome-settings-daemon 2.27.4-0ubuntu1
> ProcEnviron:
>  LANGUAGE=de_DE.UTF-8
>  PATH=(custom, no user)
>  LANG=de_DE.UTF-8
>  SHELL=/bin/bash
> ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.31-4.21-generic
> SourcePackage: gnome-settings-daemon
> Uname: Linux 2.6.31-4-generic i686
>

When not having a button the tap on click should be actived automatically, for users having a button that can be discussed but better to use mailing than a bug report about that. Not sure how other user manage to work with that option one but I keep clicking while scrolling when it's on there

Sounds like a hardware issue, I've never had that. On all other
operating systems tap-to-click is default and I believe it should be
in Ubuntu also. (Besides, do touchpads even report if they have a
button or not at hardware level?)

On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Sebastien Bacher <email address hidden> wrote:
> When not having a button the tap on click should be actived
> automatically, for users having a button that can be discussed but
> better to use mailing than a bug report about that. Not sure how other
> user manage to work with that option one but I keep clicking while
> scrolling when it's on there
>
> --
> Touchpad Tap Clicking Broken (scrolling also)
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/404219
> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> of a duplicate bug.
>
> Status in “gnome-control-center” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released
> Status in “gnome-settings-daemon” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released
>
> Bug description:
> Binary package hint: gnome-settings-daemon
>
> the gnome-settings-daemon update (2.27.3-0ubuntu2) disabled these touchpad functions:
>
> - no tap clicking
> - no vertical/horizontal scrolling
>
> Other people have the same problem:
>
> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1221888
>
> Touchpad settings in xorg.conf or via HAL don't fix the problem. (see attached HAL configuration file)
>
> ProblemType: Bug
> Architecture: i386
> Date: Fri Jul 24 18:34:16 2009
> DistroRelease: Ubuntu 9.10
> Package: gnome-settings-daemon 2.27.4-0ubuntu1
> ProcEnviron:
>  LANGUAGE=de_DE.UTF-8
>  PATH=(custom, no user)
>  LANG=de_DE.UTF-8
>  SHELL=/bin/bash
> ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.31-4.21-generic
> SourcePackage: gnome-settings-daemon
> Uname: Linux 2.6.31-4-generic i686
>

If it will be disabled in final release, it will be a big shame for ubuntu and you will probably recieve hundreds or even thousands bug reports about it. And ubuntu will recieve very negative critique in article reviews

there is no need to add such comments there, could you move the discussion to mailing lists?

While stardust85 might should considered wording his reply differently, disabling clicking with the touchpad by default is a *very strange* choice. I also installed Karmic Alpha 5, and was baffled that a functionality that works in every other operating system, and every previous release of Ubuntu, was suddenly broken. Heck, it took me a minute realize I should even *try* the buttons below my touchpad. I assumed it was a bug, and after searching, found this report.

while everyone is commenting about this... Does anyone remember the default in Widows ?
AFAIK it also sets the tap-to-click by default to off.

So i dont think it new users will find it difficult or awkward.

Dont get me wrong , i *do* use the tap-to-click and i dont have any problems with it being enabled by default.

But if the commenters here are really interested in setting this as the default it *needs* to be discussed in the mailing list or atleast open a new bug , adding comments to a closed bug is not going to fix anything.

correction:
*adding comments to a closed bug is not going to fix this problems.

I use 10.04. After today's (2010-03-31) large upgrade to GNOME 2.30 also have this problem. Tried to change the 'Enable mouse clicks with touchpad' option, but it did not helped. Maybe there is some GConf key I can Change?
--
Ubuntu 10.04, laptop Fujitsu Siemens Li1818

It seems to be fixed today