about:blank idenfies as "You are connected to an unverified site"

Bug #202011 reported by Fred
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Affects Status Importance Assigned to Milestone
Mozilla Firefox
Invalid
Medium
firefox (Ubuntu)
Fix Released
Low
Unassigned

Bug Description

Binary package hint: firefox

I am using Mozilla Firefox 3.0 beta 4.

On a blank page, example about:blank
When you press the button to the left of the address field it will say "You are connected to an unverified site", even though you are not really connected to anything.

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In , Davemgarrett (davemgarrett) wrote :

User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9pre) Gecko/2008050404 Minefield/3.0pre
Build Identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9pre) Gecko/2008050404 Minefield/3.0pre

Goto about:blank, click the favicon. You get the new security box saying:
"This web site does not support identity information. Your connection to this web site is not encrypted." Clicking "More Information" gives you a sparse page info window with a blank web site field.

This doesn't need to be here and looks a bit odd. I don't see any reason we can't just disable page info and the identity pane for about:blank. This misstatement also happens with other local files (ex chrome://global/skin/global.css) but dealing with that to look not out of place may be more complicated. Just getting rid of this when you're at "nowhere" seems to makes sense.

Reproducible: Always

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In , Johnath (johnath) wrote :

Disabling it is one approach, though one of the important differences between the padlock and the identity button is that the identity button is always available, where the padlock was only available on SSL. Another approach is just to have different text for about: and chrome: urls.

"This is a Firefox system page" or something equally unambiguous. I don't think this will make Firefox 3, but it is a good idea for .next.

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In , Davemgarrett (davemgarrett) wrote :

Yes, I was thinking that too, but then it gets progressively more involved. You'd need new messages for file:// and resource:// and all other non HTTP(S) schemes as well. Doable, but not for FF3 as you noted, so I didn't bother to suggest it.

about:blank is probably the top non-web page users will end up at, and it's the only one that simply disabling it makes any sense. While technically about:blank is a page, it's not really something a user would consider, as there is nothing in the address bar.

If it's eventually decided that it won't be disabled in this instance, then just rename this report to something like "make identity/favicon button tell users when they're at a local file or system page" and just file it away as an enhancement for future. ;)

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John Vivirito (gnomefreak) wrote : Re: Mozilla Firefox say "You are connected to an unverified site"

What Ubuntu version is this on?
What button to the left of the address field are you referring to? The refresh button?
The only button that i have to the left is the home button that i can press the rest are greyed out as they should be if you load the about:blank on a new tab
Please test this with latest Firefox-3.0 package in your version of Ubuntu.

Changed package to Firefox-3.0

Changed in firefox:
status: New → Incomplete
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Fred (eldmannen+launchpad) wrote :

I am not talking about the "home button". I am talking about the favicon button that exists INSIDE the URL bar to the left.

Here on Launchpad, that icon has a space shuttle icon.

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Fred (eldmannen+launchpad) wrote :

I am using Ubuntu 8.04 "Hardy Heron".

I am not using Mozilla Firefox 3.0 beta 5.
It now says "This web site does not supply identity information." and "Your connection to this web site is not encrypted."

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Alexander Sack (asac) wrote : Re: [Bug 202011] Re: Mozilla Firefox say "You are connected to an unverified site"

On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 07:38:05PM -0000, Fred wrote:
> I am using Ubuntu 8.04 "Hardy Heron".
>
> I am not using Mozilla Firefox 3.0 beta 5.
> It now says "This web site does not supply identity information." and "Your connection to this web site is not encrypted."
>

Yes, this is a bug. but a really minor one. Still in RC1

we should find the right bug id in bugzilla.mozilla.org or open a new
bug against the safebrowsing component

 affects firefox

 affects ubuntu/firefox-3.0
 status incomplete
 importance low

 - Alexander

Changed in firefox-3.0:
importance: Undecided → Low
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Alexander Sack (asac) wrote : Re: Mozilla Firefox say "You are connected to an unverified site"

is this still the case? at least i cannot find the exact phrase mentioned by initial reporter.

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Alexander Sack (asac) wrote :

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=432809 is your upstream issue. continue discussion there.

Changed in firefox:
importance: Undecided → Unknown
status: New → Unknown
Changed in firefox-3.0:
status: Incomplete → Triaged
Changed in firefox:
status: Unknown → Confirmed
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Fred (eldmannen+launchpad) wrote :

Using Firefox 3.0.4 now.
Now it doesn't say "You are connected to an unverified site" anymore.
Now it says "This web site does not specify identity information." followed by "Your connection to this website is not encrypted."

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Rolf Leggewie (r0lf) wrote :

> Now it says "This web site does not specify identity information." followed by
> "Your connection to this website is not encrypted."

which is basically correct, isn't it?

Changed in firefox-3.0:
assignee: nobody → r0lf
status: Triaged → Incomplete
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Fred (eldmannen+launchpad) wrote :

No, because you are not really connected to anything.
So the connection does not exist.
It also refers to "This website" which is wrong, since there is no website.

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Rolf Leggewie (r0lf) wrote :

I think this depends on your interpretation of "connection" and "website". In any case, I don't see this as serious at all. My 2c.

Rolf Leggewie (r0lf)
Changed in firefox-3.0 (Ubuntu):
assignee: Rolf Leggewie (r0lf) → nobody
status: Incomplete → Confirmed
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In , Davemgarrett (davemgarrett) wrote :

Expanding scope slightly to cover all about: URIs. None need this button as-is.

Changed in firefox:
importance: Unknown → Medium
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In , Alfredkayser (alfredkayser) wrote :

Simplest would be to just hidden the favicon-less padlock for about: pages.

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In , Domthedude001 (domthedude001) wrote :

(In reply to comment #4)
> Simplest would be to just hidden the favicon-less padlock for about: pages.

Would look strange since every page has a padlock, and it would change for about: pages?

And I think it would be even simpler to keep the padlock, but make nothing happen when it's clicked.

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In , Davemgarrett (davemgarrett) wrote :

Simple version: ALL PADLOCK ICONS MUST DIE!

Padlock icons to way too many people imply safety. They really just were used to indicate a stable encryption link. You can be fully encrypted to either your bank, or criminals pretending to be your bank who wish to steal all your money.

Not sure why padlocks were brought up again here, though. It was decided quite a while ago to phase them out. I think the only one eventually being allowed to stay is in the popup pane when clicking the identity button for an encrypted page.

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In , Domthedude001 (domthedude001) wrote :

Bah, disregard my previous comment. I thought we were talking about the favicons.

Mixed those up with padlocks.

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In , Davemgarrett (davemgarrett) wrote :

Disregarded. ;)

This bug is about the identity button, e.g. the favicon + mozilla.org blue box for this page. If the favicon removal from the location bar lands, the word "favicon" in the title will be obsolete and the title will just need changing.

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In , Davemgarrett (davemgarrett) wrote :

Forward duping to bug 590206 where they're handling this problem.

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In , Davemgarrett (davemgarrett) wrote :

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 590206 ***

Changed in firefox:
status: Confirmed → Unknown
affects: firefox-3.0 (Ubuntu) → firefox (Ubuntu)
Changed in firefox:
status: Unknown → Invalid
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Paul White (paulw2u) wrote :

Upstream bug is duplicate of #590206 which was
closed "VERIFIED FIXED" on 2010-11-25
Marking as "Fix Released" to close

Changed in firefox (Ubuntu):
status: Confirmed → Fix Released
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