bug: 278153 title: NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu date-reported: Sat, 04 Oct 2008 15:00:25 -0000 date-updated: Wed, 07 Sep 2016 08:33:24 -0000 reporter: Shaun Crampton (fasaxc) duplicate-of: duplicates: 255741 256634 attachments: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/278153/+attachment/369198/+files/screenshot.png image/png patches: tags: subscribers: Shaun Crampton (fasaxc) Hendrik van den Boogaard (chasake) Kai Jauch (kaijauch) Xamusk (ronanpaixao) Nerd_bloke (nerd-bloke) Martin Pool (mbp) Artem Popov (artfwo) Matthew East (mdke) Carlos (clp) Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre (cyphermox) Sam (sam-stonespring) Erich E. Hoover (ehoover) Bill Hung (billhung) task: hundredpapercuts status: New date-created: Wed, 07 Sep 2016 08:25:19 -0000 reporter: Mathew Hodson (mhodson) importance: Undecided assignee: milestone: task: ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) status: New date-created: Wed, 07 Sep 2016 08:30:17 -0000 reporter: Mathew Hodson (mhodson) importance: Wishlist component: main assignee: milestone: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2490632250563523757==" MIME-Version: 1.0 --===============2490632250563523757== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Binary package hint: network-manager-gnome Just upgraded to Intrepid and noticed a VPN tab at nm-applet menu > Edit Connections.... Unfortunately, the whole tab is greyed out so I can't add a VPN. There's no clue as to why it's greyed out (I have connectivity). $ apt-cache policy network-manager-gnome network-manager-gnome: Installed: 0.7~~svn20080927t101113-0ubuntu1 Candidate: 0.7~~svn20080927t101113-0ubuntu1 Version table: *** 0.7~~svn20080927t101113-0ubuntu1 0 500 http://ubuntu.virginmedia.com intrepid/main Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status Either, there's a bug/missing feature preventing it from working or the tab should explain why it's greyed out and how to enable it. --===============2490632250563523757== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Author: Shaun Crampton (fasaxc) Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2008 15:02:03 -0000 Message-Id: <20081004150203.5244.65440.malone@gandwana.canonical.com> --===============2490632250563523757== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Author: Hendrik van den Boogaard (chasake) Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 09:38:05 -0000 Message-Id: <20081018093805.26608.39765.malone@potassium.ubuntu.com> I have the same problem on my Ubuntu 8.10 beta/64 Bit. What I find particularly strange is that I do have some VPN connections setup manually in the /etc/ppp folder and these are working fine when I start them with pon or poff. --===============2490632250563523757== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Author: Lex Ross (lross) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 09:52:43 -0000 Message-Id: <20081026095243.29311.23681.malone@potassium.ubuntu.com> Same problem in network-connections-editor affects me on Ubuntu 8.10 RC/64 Bit. Not to mention that I had to manually install pptp-linux package to no avail. Too bad as my ISP like most ISPs in Russia requires VPN to access Internet. And I need support for both PPTP and L2TP to be available out of the box. --===============2490632250563523757== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Author: Tor Arne Pedersen (tor-pedersen) Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 22:56:31 -0000 Message-Id: <20081029225631.18368.23539.malone@gangotri.canonical.com> Hi! I had the same problem here, but I installed network-manager-vpnc and it works fine now. You can do that in Synaptic or typing "sudo apt-get install network-manager-vpnc" in terminal.I think network-manager-vpnc should be installed by default, as in listed as dependency for network- manager. VPN configuration two clicks away is great! -- Tor Arne Pedersen torarne at hitthebutton.org --===============2490632250563523757== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Author: Shaun Crampton (fasaxc) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 19:37:07 -0000 Message-Id: <20081030193708.25404.19984.malone@gangotri.canonical.com> Marking confirmed since Tor has got to the root of the problem. --===============2490632250563523757== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Author: Alexander Sack (asac) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 00:22:45 -0000 Message-Id: <20081103002246.17823.76917.malone@gandwana.canonical.com> its not a bug if you dont have vpn support when no vpn plugin is installed at all. --===============2490632250563523757== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Author: Tor Arne Pedersen (tor-pedersen) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 10:59:59 -0000 Message-Id: <20081103105959.16729.44920.malone@gandwana.canonical.com> It wouldn't be a bug if "configure vpn" was not an option without vpn plugin. As is now, it looks like vpn is built-in to Ubuntu, but it's not, so its confusing for users. Many would think this is a bug, and when you have an option you can choose on the menu, but its not working, what is it then? Options to solve this issue (if its not a bug, its at least an issue!) a) VPN-connections and Configure VPN should not be visible by default b) network-manager-vpnc should be installed by default c) Selecting Configure VPN should (give an option to) install network-manag= er-vpnc I vote for option b, since built-in vpn is something every OS should have. -- Tor Arne Pedersen http://hitthebutton.org --===============2490632250563523757== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Author: Tor Arne Pedersen (tor-pedersen) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 11:12:44 -0000 Message-Id: <20081103111245.5179.57582.malone@palladium.canonical.com> This is an valid bug/issue. At this moment you can select "VPN connections" and "configure vpn" and it does not work. It should work, be an extra button to make it work, or not be there at all. See full comment. --===============2490632250563523757== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Author: Alexander Sack (asac) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 12:35:22 -0000 Message-Id: <20081103123523.12717.57885.malone@gangotri.canonical.com> please dont bounce bugs thanks. feel free to raise your concerns. i will reopen when its appropriate. --===============2490632250563523757== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Author: Alexander Sack (asac) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 12:36:58 -0000 Message-Id: <20081103123658.5136.85427.malone@potassium.ubuntu.com> targetting for beta jaunty --===============2490632250563523757== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Author: Diver (diver) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 14:49:08 -0000 Message-Id: <20081103144908.31320.1137.malone@potassium.ubuntu.com> Tor is right. I vote for b, but at least c would be needed. --===============2490632250563523757== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Author: Tor Arne Pedersen (tor-pedersen) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 14:49:38 -0000 Message-Id: <20081103144939.13039.40853.malone@gangotri.canonical.com> I apologize for the bounce. I must say I do not understand why this cannot be fixed for Intrepid. Its an easy fix, just one line in the package, and it would be so much clearer for the users. I myself found the solution quite fast, but I see that many other users didn't. If it can be done simpler. Why not? -- Tor Arne --===============2490632250563523757== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Author: Diver (diver) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 14:52:20 -0000 Message-Id: <20081103145221.16602.31394.malone@gandwana.canonical.com> +1 --===============2490632250563523757== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Author: Shaun Crampton (fasaxc) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 18:53:03 -0000 Message-Id: <20081103185303.5179.79036.malone@palladium.canonical.com> I think this should be considered a minor bug rather than a wishlist item. = I think it's a bug because there is no information for the user to use to = make the leap from "VPN Add button is greyed out" to "I should install netw= ork-manager-vpnc". Making that leap requires the user to - guess that there's a missing package (rather than it being greyed out du= e to some other reason like config mismatch) -- I think you've lost 80% of= users here - know how to install a package -- loses another 40% of the remaining users - take an inspired guess at the package name that is required or find thi= s bug report -- loses 90% of users - install the package. As a comparison, when I go to the network share dialog, I get prompted in a friendly way (that doesn't go into scary technical detail) to install SAMBA. Imagine if you went into the share dialog as a non technical user and it was just greyed out with no warning. Haw would you make the leap to installing SAMBA? --===============2490632250563523757== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Author: Tor Arne Pedersen (tor-pedersen) Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 21:55:19 -0000 Message-Id: <20081104215520.3894.73289.malone@gangotri.canonical.com> Hi again! Is there a way to get this issue pushed out to Intrepid what so ever? Who can decide that this is important enough to fix? The job itself is quite easy, so I guess it's just a matter of will and/or ability to see this from a users point of view. Actually, I guess it's just about as much work to fix this once, for all users world wide, as for each user to fix it herself. So fixing this once for all would save thousands of clicks, google searches, and Synaptic startups. All this energy combined could probably save a tree, or at least a small (it might be tiny) bush! If it can't be fixed the option to select VPN-connections should just go away. Having non-working options makes the operating system look unfinished. If I was just a user testing Ubuntu for the first time, I would leave Ubuntu and go back to Windows and Cisco VPN client. over an issue like that. Regular users don't use Synaptic or apt-get. I see Shaun here compares this with SAMBA, which I think is an valid comparishment. You can compare it to anything.. What if GIMP was in the menu, but greyed out, because it was not installed. In my opinion; if it's not installed, it shouldn't be in the menu. -- Tor Arne Pedersen torarne @ http://hitthebutton.org --===============2490632250563523757== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Author: Alexander Sack (asac) Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 22:56:54 -0000 Message-Id: <20081104225654.26217.99719.malone@potassium.ubuntu.com> it cant happen in intrepid anymore. simple reason: adding something to CD after release is technically impossible ;) ... also its not possible from a policy perspective. I cant imagine any issue that could trigger something like that ;). --===============2490632250563523757== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Author: Tor Arne Pedersen (tor-pedersen) Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 06:05:29 -0000 Message-Id: <20081105060529.3894.67715.malone@gangotri.canonical.com> I know adding software to a physically shipped CD is quite impossible, and that its politically hard/impossible to add something to the iso (but not technically impossible). As a last solution updates can be released, as several of those is - for every release, But to make that happen it has to qualify as a bug, which I think it does. Now I do not have any powers here what so ever, except I can nag and comment till my fingers bleed. :) I guess it's a lost case, but for next Ubuntu I will start testing isos and comment what I believe is bugs earlier. Now lets say someone agreed with me that this is a bug, then who could decide to put out the update? Maybe its politically easier to make the VPN-Connections choice go away (as an update, not for the CD, since that's "harder")? I'm sorry for making all this fuzz, but I had a plan about recommending Ubuntu for my users with Intrepid, with the argument that it just works. Now I will not, because it does not just work :( I guess I could remaster an iso for my users, or they could just stick with Windows. --===============2490632250563523757== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Author: Diver (diver) Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 10:08:17 -0000 Message-Id: <20081105100818.17297.50365.malone@potassium.ubuntu.com> Is there is any tutorial on how one can remaster such iso? --===============2490632250563523757== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Author: Alexander Sack (asac) Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 10:26:58 -0000 Message-Id: <20081105102658.22892.1152.malone@potassium.ubuntu.com> Tor, this bug is set to what status? Does that status indicate to you that this bug is not accepted as a bug? And no ... no option that changes UI is acceptable as a stable release update. Thanks for helping earlier in next cycle. Input is more than welcome and we love to hear ideas for better polishing ;). --===============2490632250563523757== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Author: Tor Arne Pedersen (tor-pedersen) Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 11:56:15 -0000 Message-Id: <20081106115615.21830.67243.malone@palladium.canonical.com> err, looks like the status is "shut up you annoying Norwegian, we'll fix it in about 6 months time" :) I was just trying to convince you to change the status :) Maybe if I take a bunch of cute kittens as hostage... Diver: Check http://www.remastersys.klikit-linux.com, here is what I did (not tes= ted the iso yet): clean install (I did it in virtualbox, but that's optional) added "deb http://www.remastersys.klikit-linux.com/repository remastersys/"= to my /etc/apt/sources.list apt-get update apt-get install remastersys apt-get install network-manager-vpnc apt-get clean remastersys dist done! Tor Arne Pedersen at hitthebutton.org --===============2490632250563523757== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Author: Xamusk (ronanpaixao) Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 19:03:43 -0000 Message-Id: <20081108190343.21689.38116.malone@palladium.canonical.com> Actually, this bug has been reported since Hardy or before (I have seen it = somewhere, but can't find now where) and obviously the Ubuntu team also for= got about it. It's specially important to ship VPN plugins not only because of the option= that is there in the UI, but also because in many places one won't get int= ernet access without a VPN, including many universities. That would of cour= se prevent the plugin installation in the first place and would force one t= o seek another computer to download the packages, which is non-trivial for = non-power-users. --===============2490632250563523757== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Author: Tux (peter-hoogkamer) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 10:06:46 -0000 Message-Id: <20081111100646.10305.75010.malone@palladium.canonical.com> Why can't this be solved like with ntp? Don't grey out the "Add" button. Wh= en this button is clicked all three vpn plugins are installed and you can c= onfigure you're vpn. In the current case users are displayed with a greyed out Add button which = means VPN cannot be configured. When the Add button is not greyed out VPN c= an be configured. I am thinking from the users point of view, if it is ther= e it should work in an easy way. --===============2490632250563523757== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Author: Alexander Sack (asac) Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 00:39:33 -0000 Message-Id: <49557945.1030504@ubuntu.com> Xamusk wrote: > Actually, this bug has been reported since Hardy or before (I have seen i= t somewhere, but can't find now where) and obviously the Ubuntu team also f= orgot about it. > It's specially important to ship VPN plugins not only because of the opti= on that is there in the UI, but also because in many places one won't get i= nternet access without a VPN, including many universities. That would of co= urse prevent the plugin installation in the first place and would force one= to seek another computer to download the packages, which is non-trivial fo= r non-power-users. > > =20 we are looking into this for jaunty. --===============2490632250563523757== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Author: Tux (peter-hoogkamer) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 12:57:01 -0000 Message-Id: <20090131125701.20026.72341.malone@gangotri.canonical.com> Xamusk has a point here. What's the problem of installing the three vpn packages by default? This will give you vpn configuration at all times. --===============2490632250563523757== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Author: Alexander Sack (asac) Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2009 14:09:25 -0000 Message-Id: <20090209140925.GL6351@jwsdot.com> On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 12:57:01PM -0000, Tux wrote: > Xamusk has a point here. What's the problem of installing the three vpn > packages by default? This will give you vpn configuration at all times. >=20 This has to be fixed upstream by making the vpn plugins first tier products. in the past they lacked behind (as you might have noticed). - Alexander --===============2490632250563523757== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Author: Shaun Crampton (fasaxc) Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2009 18:47:57 -0000 Message-Id: <20090209184757.6509.59509.malone@potassium.ubuntu.com> Surely if the VPN packages were added as dependencies to the ubuntu- desktop package (or network manager) then this would just work? Since Ubuntu own the above packages, why does it need upstream? --===============2490632250563523757== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Author: Alexander Sack (asac) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 14:42:28 -0000 Message-Id: <20090216144228.GA5024@jwsdot.com> On Mon, Feb 09, 2009 at 06:47:57PM -0000, Shaun Crampton wrote: > Surely if the VPN packages were added as dependencies to the ubuntu- > desktop package (or network manager) then this would just work? Since > Ubuntu own the above packages, why does it need upstream? >=20 if upstream doesnt treat it equally important as netowrk-manager it can happen that we cannot move NM forward because plugins arent fixed yet. only upstream can fix that. - Alexander --===============2490632250563523757== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Author: Matthew East (mdke) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:49:23 -0000 Message-Id: <20090319174923.10906.77023.malone@palladium.canonical.com> Just a quick note: I agree that this bug should be fixed or if not, the dialogue fixed so that it's not totally confusing about why it's greyed out, but if this is changed before Jaunty release it will require a change to documentation. The bug is currently targetted to beta: if that's to be done, then it should be done sooner rather than later so that we can amend the documentation. --===============2490632250563523757== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Author: Steve Langasek (vorlon) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 01:52:46 -0000 Message-Id: <20090320015247.24181.9203.malone@palladium.canonical.com> dropping the milestone here; these packages have yet to go through an MIR process, they appear to be some distance from being installed by default, and this isn't a blocker for jaunty. --===============2490632250563523757== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Author: Alexander Gabriel (einalex) Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 18:16:38 -0000 Message-Id: <20090417181638.15134.12293.malone@palladium.canonical.com> epic fail --===============2490632250563523757== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Author: Franziskus Domig (fdomig) Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 21:03:19 -0000 Message-Id: <20090421210320.2047.13416.malone@palladium.canonical.com> Agree with Alexander Gabriel. This is really bad ... --===============2490632250563523757== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Author: Mackenzie Morgan (maco.m) Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 21:18:40 -0000 Message-Id: <200904211718.44193.macoafi@gmail.com> Alexander Sack said above that getting these into main and then default cou= ld=20 be difficult because they are not as actively developed as Network Manager = itself, so we could end up stuck with an old NM because of the plugins not = being caught up. =20 The alternative would be if someone could step up to maintain the plugins=20 packages and possibly hack them into shape so they work with new versions o= f=20 Network Manager more readily...that could be quite helpful in moving things= =20 along. I don't have the skills to work on networking software, but if any = of=20 you...? I *think* it should be easier to get the command line VPN software moved to= =20 main and installed by default in the short term, so it'll at least be *easi= er*=20 to get these plugins if you need to be connected to a VPN to apt-get the=20 plugins to get on the VPN to apt-get the plugins to get on the....yay=20 recursion! --===============2490632250563523757== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Author: Alexander Sack (asac) Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 21:44:23 -0000 Message-Id: <20090421214423.7524.87046.malone@gandwana.canonical.com> the theory is good, but in practice its not easy to hack those plugins together unless you did a certain amount of network-manager upstream development. The right way to move forward would be to get involved upstream with development of plugins and then once we see that we have all the know-how in ubuntu that allows us to do eventual fixes, we can consider to "main" those packages even though upstream has not committed to support them. That said, I think we should talk to upstream about making plugins top- level products. I will do that once the release dust has settled a bit. Feel free to remind me. --===============2490632250563523757== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Author: adx (adxgrave) Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 04:59:34 -0000 Message-Id: <20090428045934.25386.9312.malone@palladium.canonical.com> i register myself the first time just for this rant. I'm fuc*** disappointed with nm openvpn plugin. Have been tried to use it in 3 release since gutsy. IT NEVER WORK UNTIL NOW!!. Using windows openvpn- gui works perfectly everytime since xp to vista. What the hell?? There're tons of openvpn option cannot be configure which led to massive epic fail like pull redirect gateway?? Which is i just guess because i will never know what the hell is nm want due to whatever syslog or error that so clever only the god zeus could decipher. COME ON. So, u don't want to fix it?? OK no problem. But PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE make it able to import .ovpn file.. or at least tell the user how to convert it so nm can read it. 3 fucking releases just for this and i can't believe it. So u think i don't google? Yeah right... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+source/network-manager- openvpn/+bug/278153 https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/jaunty-changes/2009-April/009252.html http://ubuntuforums.org/tags.php?tag=3Djaunty+openvpn+dbus http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=3D336&order=3Ddesc&page=3D2 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3D1139433 http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=3D336 http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=3D327 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3D6175119 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3D1021592 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3D979085&page=3D2 http://home.gna.org/kvpnc/en/index.html https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3D446335 http://www.google.com.my/search?hl=3Den&q=3Dnm- openvpn+script+failed%3A+external+program+exited+with+error+status%3A+1&btn= G=3DSearch&meta=3D http://www.google.com.my/search?hl=3Den&q=3Dnm- openvpn%5B19345%5D%3A+script+failed%3A+external+program+exited+with+error+s= tatus%3A+1&btnG=3DGoogle+Search&meta=3D&aq=3Df&oq=3D http://www.google.com.my/search?hl=3Den&q=3Dnetwork+manager+openvpn+not+wor= king+.ovpn+what+the+hell&btnG=3DSearch&meta=3D http://www.google.com.my/search?hl=3Den&q=3Dnetwork+manager+openvpn+not+wor= king+.ovpn+what+the+helllllllllll&btnG=3DSearch&meta=3D http://blogs.gnome.org/dcbw/category/networkmanager/ http://www.google.com.my/search?hl=3Den&q=3Dnetwork+manager+openvpn+shit&bt= nG=3DSearch&meta=3D http://www.google.com.my/search?hl=3Den&q=3Dnetwork+manager+openvpn+import+= damn+it&btnG=3DSearch&meta=3D http://www.google.com.my/search?hl=3Den&q=3Dfuck+network+manager+openvpn+im= port&btnG=3DSearch&meta=3D https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager- openvpn/+bug/287603 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager- openvpn/+bug/91615 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager- openvpn/+bug/295333 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+source/network-manager- openvpn/+bug/153294 http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Ubuntu/2008-11/msg00958.html https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3D428362 http://www.google.com.my/search?hl=3Den&q=3Dnetwork+manager+openvpn+import&= btnG=3DGoogle+Search&meta=3D&aq=3Df&oq=3D http://www.strongvpn.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3D169 https://forum.perfect-privacy.com/showthread.php?t=3D298 https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2008-November/164955.html https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2008-November/164898.html http://www.google.com.my/search?hl=3Den&q=3Dubuntu+.ovpn+to+.conf&btnG=3DGo= ogle+Search&meta=3D&aq=3Df&oq=3D http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-979085.html http://www.google.com.my/search?hl=3Den&q=3Dubuntu+openvpn+using+network+ma= nager+failed&btnG=3DSearch&meta=3D https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VPNClient#Using%20NetworkManager https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VPNClient http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-176979.html http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3D798379 http://www.google.com.my/search?hl=3Den&q=3Dnetwork+manager+openvpn+howto&b= tnG=3DGoogle+Search&meta=3D&aq=3D0&oq=3Dnetwork+manager+openvpn http://openvpn.net/archive/openvpn-users/2005-02/msg00213.html http://openvpn.net/archive/openvpn-users/2005-08/msg00190.html http://www.google.com.my/search?hl=3Den&q=3DWARNING%3A+No+server+certificat= e+verification+method+has+been+enabled.&btnG=3DGoogle+Search&meta=3D&aq=3Df= &oq=3D https://bugs.launchpad.net/network-manager/+bug/269071/+viewstatus https://bugs.launchpad.net/network-manager/+bug/280160 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager- openvpn/+bug/280160/+activity http://www.google.com.my/search?hl=3Den&q=3Dscript+failed%3A+external+progr= am+exited+with+error+status%3A+1&btnG=3DGoogle+Search&meta=3D&aq=3Df&oq=3D http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3D724037 http://keystoneit.wordpress.com/2007/11/08/ubuntu-network-manager-and- openvpn/ http://www.google.com.my/search?hl=3Den&q=3Dopenvpn+using+network+manager&b= tnG=3DSearch&meta=3D http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1024336.html http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-857994.html http://www.google.com.my/search?hl=3Den&q=3Dimport+windows+.ovpn+to+ubuntu&= btnG=3DGoogle+Search&meta=3D&aq=3Df&oq=3D --===============2490632250563523757== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Author: Mackenzie Morgan (maco.m) Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 14:44:42 -0000 Message-Id: <200904281044.42487.macoafi@gmail.com> Take your rant elsewhere. We're not upstream for this plugin. If you thin= k=20 there are improvements to be made, I'm sure the upstream developers will=20 welcome your patches when you've had time to prepare them. However, you did just show a reason for this plugin to NOT be included by=20 default by pointing out its poor quality. Thank you. --===============2490632250563523757== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Author: Martin Pool (mbp) Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 05:17:26 -0000 Message-Id: <20090501051726.20730.90285.malone@gandwana.canonical.com> I filed bug 370210 for the specific (hopefully small) GUI change of just explaining in the dialog *why* the controls are greyed out, as requested by https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager- vpnc/+bug/278153/comments/28 and others. --===============2490632250563523757== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Author: Lex Ross (lross) Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 08:09:15 -0000 Message-Id: <20090622080915.4561.31353.malone@gangotri.canonical.com> It is still not trivial to configure L2TP connection in 9.04 with users reporting that 8.04 scripts stopped working with new release. Just reinforces the idea that things do get broken from one release to another. We really need to do something about this as more and more ISPs move to L2TP Internet connection. --===============2490632250563523757== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Author: Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre (cyphermox) Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 17:07:14 -0000 Message-Id: <20090622170715.15901.81855.malone@gangotri.canonical.com> I already did contribute some changes and fixes upstream, and I try to help out on the bugs on network-manager when I have a chance... That said, I'll bring up the issue on the upstream mailing list (if it isn't there already) and see what needs to be done to put the VPN plugins into workable shape for inclusion in the default install. --===============2490632250563523757== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Author: Alexander Sack (asac) Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 11:28:21 -0000 Message-Id: <20090623112821.GN32380@jwsdot.com> On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 08:09:15AM -0000, Lex Ross wrote: > It is still not trivial to configure L2TP connection in 9.04 with users > reporting that 8.04 scripts stopped working with new release. Just Is this bug really about l2tp support? I would suggest to make a separate bug out of it. If possible also create a bug in bugzilla.gnome.org. - Alexander --===============2490632250563523757== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Author: Mackenzie Morgan (maco.m) Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 18:29:56 -0000 Message-Id: <200906231430.01837.macoafi@gmail.com> Given that what prevents this being fixed is the need for a set of develope= rs=20 willing to "own" these package and their bugs...I'm not sure how much of a = papercut that is. --===============2490632250563523757== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Author: Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre (cyphermox) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 04:41:01 -0000 Message-Id: <20090624044101.16270.93167.malone@palladium.canonical.com> This requires, at a minimum to follow the bug description, to let the users know that additional packages are required. I see inclusion by default more like a second phase. --===============2490632250563523757== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Author: Alexander Sack (asac) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 15:42:46 -0000 Message-Id: <20091012154247.17089.99826.malone@potassium.ubuntu.com> the pptp part is special and is treated in bug 107738 on its own. invalidating here. --===============2490632250563523757== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Author: Alexander Sack (asac) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 15:44:03 -0000 Message-Id: <20091012154403.31122.25365.malone@gangotri.canonical.com> that said, i am not convinced that we should install all vpn plugins that exist by default. pptp is a exception as some users seem to need that to get online for their provider. so its a bootstrapping thing there. the others could just be installed on-demand using somewizard or something if you go to "add new vpn". --===============2490632250563523757== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Author: Mackenzie Morgan (maco.m) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 16:05:43 -0000 Message-Id: <200910121205.43639.macoafi@gmail.com> In some environments the others are bootstrapping things as well. I can't = imagine my school is the only one that requires vpnc to get online. I usua= lly=20 would sneakernet the debs from a Windows computer in the library to get up = and=20 running when I lived on campus. --===============2490632250563523757== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Author: Xamusk (ronanpaixao) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 21:41:43 -0000 Message-Id: <20091012214143.27742.83628.malone@gangotri.canonical.com> Actually my college requires openvpn to connect. Otherwise one has to dual-boot to Windows or ask a friend to download the packages. --===============2490632250563523757== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Author: Alexander Sack (asac) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 22:27:13 -0000 Message-Id: <20091012222713.GA17815@jwsdot.com> On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 09:41:43PM -0000, Xamusk wrote: > Actually my college requires openvpn to connect. Otherwise one has to > dual-boot to Windows or ask a friend to download the packages. >=20 OK. thanks for the info. - Alexander --===============2490632250563523757== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Author: abloylas (abloylas) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:38:57 -0000 Message-Id: <20091120123857.30440.99051.malone@wampee.canonical.com> This seems to be a duplicate of bug 277496. --===============2490632250563523757== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Author: jhfhlkjlj (fdsuufijjejejejej-deactivatedaccount) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 17:08:09 -0000 Message-Id: <20100310170809.15167.85357.malone@palladium.canonical.com> Could we get this included for Lucid...? --===============2490632250563523757== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Author: Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre (cyphermox) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 17:45:11 -0000 Message-Id: <20100310174511.12152.73494.malone@gandwana.canonical.com> Chauncellor, Please refer to bug 107738 about the -pptp plugin being installed by default. As for the other VPN plugins like -vpnc and -openvpn (and others, -openconnect, maybe more coming up?), I don't think it would be likely that all VPN plugins would be installed by default. Seeing as pptp is a special requirement (needs to be there for some DSL users), this is treated differently, but in other cases it's usually possible to go elsewhere to have Internet access without VPN, or to use another method to get the packages and then be able to use the VPN to connect to a secured network. As for as the -vpnc, -openvpn, etc. plugins are concerned, I expect interfacing with PackageKit through nm-applet to interactively install new plugins (as per https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager- openvpn/+bug/278153/comments/43) is probably far more likely to happen (through I couldn't say "for lucid" for sure). --===============2490632250563523757== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Author: Mathew Hodson (mhodson) Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2016 08:33:23 -0000 Message-Id: <20160907083323.27613.53722.malone@gac.canonical.com> network-manager-openvpn is going to be included in main in bug #1574576 After that, it might be reasonable to add it to desktop-recommends. --===============2490632250563523757==--