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evolution shows wrong trash icon

Bug #31034 reported by ulrich
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Affects Status Importance Assigned to Milestone
Evolution
Fix Released
Medium
tango-icon-theme
Fix Released
High
evolution (Ubuntu)
Fix Released
Medium
Daniel Holbach
Ubuntu ubuntu-6.06

Bug Description

since the last update, evolution shows no longer the trashcan icon in the foldertreeveiw on the left or in the menubar. instead it shows the red circle with the red line (editdelete.svg).

isn't this confusing, since a symbol like this implies 'no way, you can't do that' rather than delete?

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In , Jakub Steiner (jimmac-redhat) wrote :

From the description these are actually two bugs. One is that evolution and some
other apps are using the wrong gtk icon for trash. They should not use
stock_delete. While in gnome icon theme delete action happens to be a trash,
that metaphor has its issues.

The other bug is that the current edit-delete icon metaphor is not appropriate,
which I happen to kinda agree with. I don't have any better propositions right
now. Making it a trash bin like in git poses problems -- some delete actions
have nothing to do with the trash and we are confusing the user into thinking
so. Adding an arrow doesn't take that problem away.

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ulrich (ulrich) wrote :

since the last update, evolution shows no longer the trashcan icon in the foldertreeveiw on the left or in the menubar. instead it shows the red circle with the red line (editdelete.svg).

isn't this confusing, since a symbol like this implies 'no way, you can't do that' rather than delete?

Sebastien Bacher (seb128)
Changed in tango-icon-theme:
assignee: nobody → dholbach
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Daniel Holbach (dholbach) wrote :

Thanks for your bug report. The issue was already raise in an upstream bug report: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5723

Changed in tango-icon-theme:
status: Unconfirmed → Confirmed
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ulrich (ulrich) wrote :

looks like i have to look much deeper into malone than i thought... til now, i'm not certain how this thing really works.

we need a slideshow-enabled wikipage for malone! ;)

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In , Daniel Holbach (dholbach) wrote :

The issue about the Evolution trash icon was raised in
https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/tango-icon-theme/+bug/31034 as well.

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Daniel Holbach (dholbach) wrote :

 tango-icon-theme (0.7.1-0ubuntu1) dapper; urgency=low
 .
   * New upstream release. (Malone: #32035)
   * Bugs fixed: Malone: #31034 ("evolution shows wrong trash icon").
   * debian/control:
     - bumped Build-Depends on icon-naming-utils.

Changed in tango-icon-theme:
status: Confirmed → Fix Released
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ulrich (ulrich) wrote :

well, the icons are still there... but i guess the upstream solution to this problem is different minded?

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Daniel Holbach (dholbach) wrote :

Urg, sorry - I must have confused this bug report with some other. You're right, the problem persists.

Changed in tango-icon-theme:
status: Fix Released → Confirmed
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Andreas Nilsson (andreasn) wrote :

I drew this icon and we have a bug in freedesktop bugzilla about this as well.
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5723
I got the idea about the metaphor from the Apple Mail app.
http://helpdesk.gwu.edu/email/mac/images/mail.03.gif
We are lacking good alternatives though, as Jakub pointed out: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5723#c1

Suggestions for what metaphor we can use for this icon is more than welcome.

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In , Lionel Dricot (ploum-deactivatedaccount) wrote :

It's only a suggestion but what about a document destructor? Things like that :
http://www.lhommemoderne.com/product/260-260/12239.jpg who cut your document
into tiny pieces of paper so nobody can read them anymore.

It can maybe give a good metaphor that you will "destroy" the data without being
able to take it back.

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In , dobey (dobey) wrote :

*** Bug 6516 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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Michael Monreal (mimox) wrote :

This is *not* a problem with the theme, it's evolution using the wrong icon. This will be fixed upstream, dunno if there will be another stable release before dapper's release (or if it even gets into the 2.6.x branch), so please add this patch to ubuntu'S evolution package:

http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=339626

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Daniel Holbach (dholbach) wrote :

Changing to evolution.

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Daniel Holbach (dholbach) wrote :

Patch to be committed upstream.

Changed in evolution:
status: Confirmed → Fix Committed
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Loe Spee (lgespee) wrote :

Possibly related: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/41752

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Daniel Holbach (dholbach) wrote :

Yeah, it is, if you read the upstream patch, you'll realize that two metaphors were confused in the evolution code.

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Daniel Holbach (dholbach) wrote :

 evolution (2.6.1-0ubuntu4) dapper; urgency=low
 .
   * debian/patches/12_fix_icon_metaphors_bug_339626.patch:
     - use patch from http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=339626 to fix
       Malone: #31034.

Changed in evolution:
status: Fix Committed → Fix Released
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Loe Spee (lgespee) wrote :

Quote of Daniel Holbach:
Yeah, it is, if you read the upstream patch, you'll realize that two metaphors were confused in the evolution code.

Ah alright, did not read that one. Thanks for the information.

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In , Jakub Steiner (jimmac-redhat) wrote :

I'll give the shredder a try.

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In , dobey (dobey) wrote :

The icon in CVS is now a shredder. I'm marking this as fixed.

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status: Unconfirmed → Fix Released
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importance: Unknown → High
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importance: Unknown → Medium
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