More information when deleting a view

Possible solution committed here http://gitorious.org/~alanmc/mahara/alanmcs-mahara/commit/8c594aa481e2871da1a0365f21543b75af378f84

I'm not sure if the style change is acceptable. Please review and feedback.

Sorry. I don't work with Gitorious yet. Therefore, my suggestion comes here.

Your sentence:
<p>Do you really want to delete this View? It cannot be undone.</p><p><strong>Note:</strong> all the content blocks that have been added to the view will not be deleted. However, any feedback placed against the view will be deleted. <br/>Consider backuping the view by exporting it first.</p>

"All content blocks" is not entirely correct as content from text boxes will be gone.

My suggestion:
<p>Do you really want to delete this View? It cannot be undone.</p><p><strong>Note:</strong> All your files and blog entries that you linked in this view will still be available. However, any feedback placed in this view as well as text entered directly into text boxes will be deleted. <br/>Consider creating a backup of this view before you delete it by <a href="http://siteurl/export/" target="_blank">exporting</a> it.</p>

Hi Kristina,

Sorry - should have checked in with you - I saw your suggestion but on review though that terminology was more accurate (terminology taken from Edit Content and Layout > "Drag and drop content blocks from the tabs below to create your View.") as individual items were not deleted when you delete a view. Feedback entered against the view does get deleted as it is associated with the view.

I see now that some content blocks are view specific and others are independent but can be associated with a view. The view specific content is that which is lost. I'll revert to your suggestion verbatim and update.

Thanks.
Alan

My wording is more clumsy, Alan, but we need to make the distinction between the different blocks. It will get easier once text boxes and feedback are also reusable artefacts.

Hi Kristina

I agree there should be a warning on what actions deleting a view will have.

Maybe the advice should be a question like - Would you like to backup this view to retain any your feedback ? If the answer is Yes then go to the export menu, If No then carry on deleting.

The icon for deleting is a X which usually means close the window - is it possible to replace with a rubbish bin icon - also use this icon for the delete collection menu.

A related issue is on the delete collection menu the default for confirmation of deletion is Yes - this would be better to be No or nothing so someone deosn't accidentally press the Enter when trying to esacape the delete menu.

Craig

Hi Craig,

Thanks for getting back to this bug. I've revisited the page again and have the following suggestion to make it clearer:

Do you really want to delete this View? It cannot be undone.

Note: None of the content blocks that have been added to the view will be deleted unless it is a Textbox block.
However, any feedback placed against the view will be deleted. Consider backing up the view by [link to the export]exporting it[/link end] first.

[Yes] [No] (so that users have to read through the note. Otherwise it may be too tempting to overlook it.

I would not use a question on that page that can be answered by Yes or No because that could be confused with the buttons Yes and No.

The X for "Delete" is used throughout Mahara for removing and deleting items, e.g. also in Files, Blog. the view deletion is a combination of removing and deleting: the view itself is like a block in a view: it gets removed, but it can be brought back again. However, the feedback and the textbox block are items that are deleted.

I would not introduce a new icon that is not used elsewhere when we have used the X consistently (at least to my knowledge), though we are not yet consistent in the image. I think we have two different ones at the moment (one primary one -> the big button, and a smaller one for blog posts and files).

Kristina

Hi Kristina

Having the prompt for the backup was to take them to the menu for backing up as users may not know how to backup a view.

The Yes No prompt would only appear once after the question is answered so may not be confusing as they don't appear on same screen.

Your words are fine to explain the possible consequences - having the prompt also means there is more likelihood of this being read.

I am also OK with the X being used to delete - this is also used in Moodle so people will be able to figure this out especially when a prompt about deleting comes up.

x delete is used for deleting Groups

Hi,

I'd like to re-open this bug as it has not yet been fixed and we just got a question about it in the forums: http://mahara.org/interaction/forum/topic.php?id=2713

I would keep the notice simple and not introduce more buttons, but certainly provide a link to the view / page export page.

My suggestion (from above adapted to the new 1.4 terminology):
<p>Do you really want to delete this page? It cannot be undone.</p><p><strong>Note:</strong> All your files and blog entries that you linked in this page will still be available. However, any feedback placed on this page as well as text entered directly into text boxes will be deleted. <br/>Consider creating a backup of this page before you delete it by <a href="http://siteurl/export/" target="_blank">exporting</a> it.</p>

Kristina

Alan are you still working on this? If not I will gladly continue with it.

Attached a screenshot of the note, based on Kristina's text with some minor formatting by me (with the intention of making it a bit easier to read).

I like it.

Given that the average user only skims webpages instead of reading them, do you think that moving the warning above the buttons would make it more likely that it would get read?

I don't think it will matter where it goes, there will probably still be people that won't read it (and then complain). I may be a tad cynical about this :)

I'll defer to the wisdom of the masses though.

Hi Darryl,

Thank you for taking up this bug and finishing it. I can't really say which way is the best: all text above the buttons or like in your screenshot. I am aware that most people will probably not read the text and thus it would not matter whether the note is above the buttons or not. I quite like that it is below to break up the massive text and point to the essentials.

However, I would like to draw more attention to the exporting / backup part. What do you think about moving that directly above the buttons? And leave the Note paragraph below?

I moved the text with the export link above the buttons, and changed the content slightly. I've kept the note below the buttons - having all of the text above the buttons feels too cluttered to me.

Looks good to go for me now. :-)