Edgy Eft Beta - About Me dialog in Preferences

Thanks for your bug. Could you make a screenshot of the issue? What locale do you use? They have a country and a state,province on my edgy desktop

Sebastien...the screenshot you requested. I am using English US as locale.

On 10/16/06, Sebastien Bacher <email address hidden> wrote:
> Thanks for your bug. Could you make a screenshot of the issue? What
> locale do you use? They have a country and a state,province on my edgy
> desktop
>
> ** Changed in: gnome-panel (Ubuntu)
> Importance: Undecided => Low
> Assignee: (unassigned) => Ubuntu Desktop Bugs
> Status: Unconfirmed => Needs Info
>
> --
> Edgy Eft Beta - About Me dialog in Preferences
> https://launchpad.net/bugs/66158
>

Le mercredi 18 octobre 2006 à 17:34 +0000, Rodrigo Ortiz a écrit :
> Sebastien...the screenshot you requested. I am using English US as
> locale.

did you try to attach the screenshot to the mail? I think that doesn't
work, you probably have to do it from the webpage

attached screenshot

are you sure you are not using a en_GB locale? What value does LANG have to /etc/environment? Do you have the issue if you run "LANG=C gnome-about-me" to start the program?

Sebastien,

I don't have the issue when I run the command LANG=C gnome-about-me

Here is the content of my /etc/enviroment:

PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games"
LANG="en_US.UTF-8"
LANGUAGE="en_US:en_GB:en"

On 10/18/06, Sebastien Bacher <email address hidden> wrote:
> are you sure you are not using a en_GB locale? What value does LANG have
> to /etc/environment? Do you have the issue if you run "LANG=C gnome-
> about-me" to start the program?
>
> --
> Edgy Eft Beta - About Me dialog in Preferences
> https://launchpad.net/bugs/66158
>

looks like you are using the en_GB translations. That's probably bug #10822. I'm reassigning the task to the corresponding language pack for the translation issue

looks like the language pack update has fixed it

On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 09:12:55 +0100, Rodrigo Ortiz <email address hidden>
wrote:
> In the Address section of the About Me dialog, the Home address has the
> field State/Province, while the Work address has the field County. Both
> should be State/Province in my opinion.

I'll be honest - that was probably me in the upstream (i.e. Gnome)
translation. I stand by this change, for en_GB, as it better reflects the
GB perspective (we don't have states and provinces aren't normally
applicable).

Ubuntu may want to change this downstream as their en_GB translation
covers more than just the UK.

dave

On Sun, 2006-10-29 at 19:00 +0000, David Lodge wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 09:12:55 +0100, Rodrigo Ortiz <email address hidden>
> wrote:
> > In the Address section of the About Me dialog, the Home address has the
> > field State/Province, while the Work address has the field County. Both
> > should be State/Province in my opinion.
>
> I'll be honest - that was probably me in the upstream (i.e. Gnome)
> translation. I stand by this change, for en_GB, as it better reflects the
> GB perspective (we don't have states and provinces aren't normally
> applicable).
>
> Ubuntu may want to change this downstream as their en_GB translation
> covers more than just the UK.

I think both should be "County". I've never understood "State/Province".

On Monday 30 October 2006 06:00, "David Lodge" <email address hidden> wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 09:12:55 +0100, Rodrigo Ortiz <email address hidden>
>
> wrote:
> > In the Address section of the About Me dialog, the Home address has the
> > field State/Province, while the Work address has the field County. Both
> > should be State/Province in my opinion.
>
> I'll be honest - that was probably me in the upstream (i.e. Gnome)
> translation. I stand by this change, for en_GB, as it better reflects the
> GB perspective (we don't have states and provinces aren't normally
> applicable).

Both fields should be consistent, since they mean the same thing.

> Ubuntu may want to change this downstream as their en_GB translation
> covers more than just the UK.

This is a difficult one to decide upon. To pick only three Commonwealth
countries as an example:

  * the UK uses 'county'
  * Australia uses 'state'
  * Canada uses 'province'

While we could have 'County/State/Province', that could be considered to be
unwieldy.

Another point of contention is the 'City' field. For most Australians at
least, this is where they would enter their suburb name (e.g. 'Burwood',
not 'Sydney').

I have taken a page out of KDE's book and changed 'State/Province' to 'Region'
and 'City' to 'Locality'. These terms are more generic and should be
applicable just about anywhere. I ticked the 'Someone should review this
translation' box, so that we can discuss this change further if necessary. If
there are no objections, I'll remove those ticks to have the change made
official.

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On Mon, 2006-10-30 at 02:49 +0000, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote:
> On Monday 30 October 2006 06:00, "David Lodge" <email address hidden> wrote:
> > On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 09:12:55 +0100, Rodrigo Ortiz <email address hidden>
> >
> > wrote:
> > > In the Address section of the About Me dialog, the Home address has the
> > > field State/Province, while the Work address has the field County. Both
> > > should be State/Province in my opinion.
> >
> > I'll be honest - that was probably me in the upstream (i.e. Gnome)
> > translation. I stand by this change, for en_GB, as it better reflects the
> > GB perspective (we don't have states and provinces aren't normally
> > applicable).
>
> Both fields should be consistent, since they mean the same thing.
>
> > Ubuntu may want to change this downstream as their en_GB translation
> > covers more than just the UK.
>
> This is a difficult one to decide upon. To pick only three Commonwealth
> countries as an example:
>
> * the UK uses 'county'
> * Australia uses 'state'
> * Canada uses 'province'
>
> While we could have 'County/State/Province', that could be considered to be
> unwieldy.
>
> Another point of contention is the 'City' field. For most Australians at
> least, this is where they would enter their suburb name (e.g. 'Burwood',
> not 'Sydney').
>
> I have taken a page out of KDE's book and changed 'State/Province' to 'Region'
> and 'City' to 'Locality'. These terms are more generic and should be
> applicable just about anywhere. I ticked the 'Someone should review this
> translation' box, so that we can discuss this change further if necessary. If
> there are no objections, I'll remove those ticks to have the change made
> official.
>
Sounds like a good idea to me. BTW, is anyone else getting two copies of
every mail sent to this list?

On Mon, 2006-10-30 at 02:49 +0000, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote:

> This is a difficult one to decide upon. To pick only three Commonwealth
> countries as an example:
>
> * the UK uses 'county'
> * Australia uses 'state'
> * Canada uses 'province'

I have never heard of council areas known as counties here in Scotland
even. I'm not quite sure what we do call them.
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