"Username" field contains nonsensical tooltip

Bug #70786 reported by Matthew Paul Thomas
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gdm
Fix Released
Low
gdm (Ubuntu)
Fix Released
Low
Ubuntu Desktop Bugs

Bug Description

gdm 2.16.1, Ubuntu 6.10

When the mouse pointer is over the "Username" field in the login screen, a tooltip appears: "Answer questions here and press Enter when done. For a menu press F10."

This is nonsense. The login screen isn't asking you any questions. And nobody wants "a menu" unless they're at a restaurant. The field should not have a tooltip at all.

Tags: patch
description: updated
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Stéphane Graber (stgraber) wrote :

We can also at least change it to something like : "Enter your username, then hit enter. You can access session/boot/action menu by the F10 key"
It would have more sense than the current one.

Changed in gdm:
status: Unconfirmed → Confirmed
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Matthew Paul Thomas (mpt) wrote :

There is a menubutton for that menu already. And if you can move the mouse to view the tooltip, you can move the mouse to click the menubutton without pressing F10.

Tooltips are so-called because they're intended for toolbars, where space is too scarce to provide proper labels. If there was ever any program where this is *not* a problem, it's gdm. Half a dozen elements in the entire screen.

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Sebastien Bacher (seb128) wrote :

Thank you for your bug. I've forwarded it upstream: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=389734

Changed in gdm:
assignee: nobody → desktop-bugs
importance: Undecided → Low
Changed in gdm:
status: Unknown → Unconfirmed
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Sebastien Bacher (seb128) wrote :

Upstream comment:

"This is open for debate. The purpose of the "F10 menu" is to provide a list of
features available to the user. It is present because some gdmgreeter themes
do not have buttons to support features that may be turned on in the
configuration file. In other words if "reboot" is turned on in GDM
configuration, but the theme has no "Reboot" button, then there is no way to
reboot without hitting F10
(or changing the theme to one that supports everything you might want to use).

So, to support such themes that might be missing useful buttons, this is
useful.
Any ideas of how to better communicate this functionality to the user would be
appreciated. Also, if the best approach is to use a tooltip on the entry
field, should the wording be improved? As you point out the words "questions"
and "menu" are probably poor word choices."

maybe you could comment on the upstream bug?

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Matthew Paul Thomas (mpt) wrote :

Done. (Sorry for not reporting it upstream; I guessed it was Ubuntu-specific.)

Changed in gdm:
status: Unconfirmed → In Progress
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Roberto Sarrionandia (rbs-tito) wrote :

It says "questions" because the username and password are entered in the same

Perhaps "Enter login details here and press enter" would be more appropriate.

Changed in gdm:
assignee: desktop-bugs → rbs-tito
status: Confirmed → In Progress
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Roberto Sarrionandia (rbs-tito) wrote :

I'm going to go ahead and recommend a patch. Hardy isn't that far away and we should get our LTS as polished as possible

This patch was created using diff, it replaces the text with
_("Enter login details and press enter. "
- "Press F10 for more options."),

in greeter_canvas_item.c

Changed in gdm:
assignee: rbs-tito → nobody
status: In Progress → Confirmed
Changed in gdm:
assignee: nobody → desktop-bugs
status: Confirmed → Triaged
Changed in gdm:
status: In Progress → Fix Released
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Roberto Sarrionandia (rbs-tito) wrote :

It's been fixed upstream

Changed in gdm:
assignee: desktop-bugs → nobody
status: Triaged → In Progress
Changed in gdm:
assignee: nobody → desktop-bugs
status: In Progress → Fix Committed
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Sebastien Bacher (seb128) wrote :

the bug is fixed in hardy now

Changed in gdm:
status: Fix Committed → Fix Released
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bob someone (hahabob-deactivatedaccount) wrote :

Uh, this isn't fixed yet. I'm running Hardy with all the updates installed and still says "Answer questions here...etc". Or is this just the the themes fault?

Changed in gdm:
importance: Unknown → Low
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