"Translate This Application" in Firefox mistaken for translating the Web page

Bubba, were you reading your e-mail in Firefox? Did you expect "Translate This Application" would let you translate the e-mail message?

   Hello Matthew Paul Thomas,
   You could be right on this, because at times I get mail in a
different locale, but with gmail.com.....I guess so gmail is in the
FireFox browesr. When I went to try it now it say's your draft has
been modified. y/n when I say know it leads me to translate...English
is all I know. but I would like to help:)

Bubba

On 1/3/07, Matthew Paul Thomas <email address hidden> wrote:
> Bubba, were you reading your e-mail in Firefox? Did you expect
> "Translate This Application" would let you translate the e-mail message?
>
> ** Changed in: rosetta (upstream)
> Status: Unconfirmed => Needs Info
>
> --
> Help in the firefox browser menu to translate the language
> https://launchpad.net/bugs/77460
>

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Not a Launchpad task...

Bubba, thanks very, very much for your comment! I think what you're saying here is very important and it illustrated misleading user-interface design.

Of course to me, "Translate this Application" means that I would be asked to help translate Firefox into another language. To someone else it may mean "translate the webpage I am on to another language", which is a valid assumption.

I really think this is important, but a bug tracker isn't the best place for this sort of discussion. I strongly recommend and encourage you to raise this issue on the Ubuntu forums: http://www.ubuntu.com/community/forums/

I think it's clear enough that "application" refers to 'firefox' and not the web page I look at. Do you have any idea on how to improve the wording?

Daniel, that's because you're thinking like a developer. ;-) "Report Broken Web Site…" applies to the Web page you're on. "Report Web Forgery…" applies to the Web page you're on. So it's quite understandable that the launchpad-integration items between them will apply to the Web page you're on ... but then they don't. You could improve this a little bit by fixing the position of the menu items. But still, the idea of contributing to the choice of words of the buttons and menus (!) in a program you're already using (!!) is so unusual that I don't think you can explain it in a menu item.

One way to improve this would be to replace the existing launchpad-integration items with a "Feedback and Contributions…" item, which can more thoroughly describe the various ways you can help contribute to the software.

On 2/1/07, Matthew Paul Thomas <email address hidden> wrote:
>
> Daniel, that's because you're thinking like a developer. ;-) "Report
> Broken Web Site…" applies to the Web page you're on. "Report Web
> Forgery…" applies to the Web page you're on. So it's quite
> understandable that the launchpad-integration items between them will
> apply to the Web page you're on ... but then they don't. You could
> improve this a little bit by fixing the position of the menu items. But
> still, the idea of contributing to the choice of words of the buttons
> and menus (!) in a program you're already using (!!) is so unusual that
> I don't think you can explain it in a menu item.

   I can see now the benefit for FireFox in the application. I do use
FireFox in the google search engine when doing a serch google has a place
in the search hits I get, but the links sometime have translate this. I was
thinking in that same manner. If google translate it's links why not the
gmail. Does rosetta support Mozilla in the translate or is this a 'eye
catcher for Mozilla translater's.'

The point is mozilla needs to translate two. That is one way to do this.
It can catch one off guard In the help Translate this application.

One way to improve this would be to replace the existing launchpad-
> integration items with a "Feedback and Contributions…" item, which can
> more thoroughly describe the various ways you can help contribute to the
> software.
>
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> "Translate This Application" in Firefox mistaken for translating the Web
> page
> https://launchpad.net/bugs/77460
>

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The bug tracker is probably not the best place to discuss design decision like that, maybe that could be moved to a mailing list?

This isnt a bug its a design decision and its very old so im marking this bug as invalid.