utopic alternate install CD doesn't boot

This bug is missing log files that will aid in diagnosing the problem. From a terminal window please run:

apport-collect 1363180

and then change the status of the bug to 'Confirmed'.

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Running the "apport-collect 1363180" seemed to not go through . . . various error windows could not be read in the desktop because the new install of 14.04 has left problems with the GUI . . . no time to deal with it. This bug report was filed as part of the QA testing process . . . I have marked it as "confirmed" . . . the hardware stuff was sent to clipit: https://gist.github.com/29c30a0634400329d4ba

The "system" list did not show my Apple iBook G4 933MHz 6xxMB RAM . . . so could not complete that part of the QA process. 12.04 ran very well on this computer . . . .

Problem "replicated" using the desktop iso downloaded today build 20140829 got to the Yaboot boot prompt window, entering "live" and various other choices offered under "tab" brings identical "claim error" . . . adding on some "radeonfb= items brings "invalid device" . . . . So, I would again say that "testing failed" on the G4 iBook with 14.10 beta . . . could not proceed past the Yaboot window . . . .

This bug has been reported on the Ubuntu ISO testing tracker.

A list of all reports related to this bug can be found here:
http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/reports/bugs/1363180

Problem was replicated while trying to "boot" the live Desktop in my iMac G4 800 Mhz w/1GB RAM . . . identical "claim error" and "invalid device" responses as with the iBook. Couldn't get the iMac registered with QA because the Xubuntu/Lubuntu 12.04 system "could not find gist" . . . took a while to get apt to suggest "yorick" . . . but then running the long command to generate a clipit statement did not provide a URL . . . . Anyway, same failure to get past the Yaboot window was discovered using daily build 20140829 on the iMac . . . .

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Folks:

All of this recent activity 9/1/14 was via the iMac 800 running "apport-collect 1363180" in the Xubun 12.04 partition . . . trying to run "hardinfo -ram devices.so | sed '/\*\*\*\*\*\*\*/,/\*\*\*\*\*\*\*/d' | gist-paste | clipit -c" . . . generates an error something about "gnome keyring" . . . possibly due to "gist" not being installed . . . "yorick" was . . . . So, since there is no paste-binit address generated I don't think I can complete the process of adding the iMac to the QA tracker . . . . It also appears that running the "apport-collect" in the iBook running now 14.04 . . . did not go through here in bugz report??? Although I believe that unit is added into the QA Tracker of computers . . . don't know if I would need to run that command again or not?

As it is I've tried the desktop PPC DVD in both of my PPC computers and have had the same issue . . . . BTW, while watching the Terminal in the iMac I saw the line "linux is not installed" . . . but, it is . . . and I was booted up in 12.04 when I ran the "apport" command . . . .

e.e.p.

I got the same message when I used the utopic-desktop installation DVD (20140906). And also when I upgraded my freshly installed Lubuntu 14.04.1 to 14.10.
My hardware is a iBook G3 600Mhz.

The hardware specs can be found here: https://gist.github.com/66e1b550cc5f9b766096.

After the upgrade I stil boot using the 14.04.1 kernel (3.13.0-35-powerpc-smp). The 14.10 kernel is 3.16.0-14-powerpc-smp.

-CONFIG_KERNEL_START=0xc0000000
-CONFIG_PHYSICAL_START=0x00000000
+CONFIG_KERNEL_START=0xc2000000
+CONFIG_PHYSICAL_START=0x02000000

^-- Could be this config change between trusty and utopic.

Okay, looks like this is bug #745358 popping back up because CRASHDUMP was accidentally re-enabled on ppc-smp. Sorting now with Tim.

FWIW, this won't be fixed in time for the beta, so the beta PPC CDs will only boot/install on 64-bit systems, but dailies shortly after the beta should be good to go on 32-bit systems again.

CRASH_DUMP=n for powerpc-smp and powerpc-e500mc

@Adam:

OK, thanks for that info on the beta, I won't waste time fiddling around
with it . . . but maybe I'll check into the dailies . . . whenever that
would be . . . and try to test for boot-up . . . . So far the 14.04 ppc on
the iBook has rough window dragging . . . slow scrolling . . . . Might try
to install 14.10 if it looks better than 14.04.

F/ e.e.p.

On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Adam Conrad <adconrad@0c3.net> wrote:

> FWIW, this won't be fixed in time for the beta, so the beta PPC CDs will
> only boot/install on 64-bit systems, but dailies shortly after the beta
> should be good to go on 32-bit systems again.
>
> --
>

This bug was fixed in the package linux - 3.16.0-18.25

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linux (3.16.0-18.25) utopic; urgency=low

  [ Tim Gardner ]

  * Release Tracking Bug
    - LP: #1373682
 -- Tim Gardner <email address hidden> Wed, 24 Sep 2014 19:23:23 -0600

Great!! Glad there was a way to deal with the issue . . . I'll check into the dailies in a week or so . . . .

e.e.p.

Great! Lots of thanks to the developers. Such a shame that I cannot test this soon, because I don't have access to my iBook.

Still present in the daily from 2014-10-02 on a PowerBook Titanium 1GHz 7455

The duplicate bug #1367448 has a better description of the kernel error.

Lars, et al:

Thanks for the update, I guess "fixed" has many meanings; I'll give it a
few weeks, hopefully before my iBook takes its final KP episode. But, I
checked the duplicate description, seems almost verbatim "the same" . . .
so, uh, yeah I can see how that one is "better" . . . . <shrug> It's
really the same bug, same problem, which appears to not be fixed yet, right?

F

On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 8:36 AM, Lars Noodén <email address hidden> wrote:

> Still present in the daily from 2014-10-02 on a PowerBook Titanium 1GHz
> 7455
>
> The duplicate bug #1367448 has a better description of the kernel error.
>
> --
>

@Fritz it's apparently not fixed for Lars but we need others to
confirm that. Please include your report. Final release is due on the
23rd, btw.

@Walter:

Alrighty, be a few days before I can download and burn the iso . . . I'll
post back when I've at least tried to boot or run the installer . . . .

F

On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 10:42 AM, Walter Lapchynski <
<email address hidden>> wrote:

> @Fritz it's apparently not fixed for Lars but we need others to
> confirm that. Please include your report. Final release is due on the
> 23rd, btw.
>
>
>

Folks:

OK, with today's daily 10/3 powerpc I was able to get passed the Yaboot
boot screen, in both my iMac 800 and my iBook, so that's the good news. In
the iMac I just used the live video=ofonly??? the semi default boot
parameter and eventually got to a black screen . . . I would need to be
reminded on what the boot parameters for the iMac are . . . .

However, on the iBook, which I might actually try the install on, I used
"live-nosplash-powerpc video=radeonfb: 1024x768-32@60" . . . . And that
got me to a clean resolution GUI desktop!!! But, when I tried to set the
time so that I could use Gmail to post this report . . . the screen "froze"
on the drop down menu of time zones. I rebooted and tried again, this time
I tried to just adjust the time without doing the timezone and . . . it
didn't "synchronize" . . . . Then, just for humor I wanted to check the
"window dragging" capacity, which is not good in 14.04 on this same
computer . . . and, the cursor turned into the 'clenched hand" . . . the
window moved a few spaces, then stopped . . . I released the mouse button .
. . and the clenched fist stayed clenched . . . nothing else responded . .
. system frozen . . . shut it down and rebooted back into OSX.

So, it looks "closer" but, still no cigar in terms of stability such that
QA testing could be done . . . couldn't take the time to try an install,
etc.

F

On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 12:12 PM, Fritz Hudnut <email address hidden> wrote:

> @Walter:
>
> Alrighty, be a few days before I can download and burn the iso . . . I'll
> post back when I've at least tried to boot or run the installer . . . .
>
> F
>
> On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 10:42 AM, Walter Lapchynski <
> <email address hidden>> wrote:
>
>> @Fritz it's apparently not fixed for Lars but we need others to
>> confirm that. Please include your report. Final release is due on the
>> 23rd, btw.
>>
>>
>>
>

On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 6:38 PM, Fritz Hudnut <email address hidden> wrote:
> OK, with today's daily 10/3 powerpc I was able to get passed the Yaboot
> boot screen, in both my iMac 800 and my iBook, so that's the good news.

that means this one's fixed.

> the iMac I just used the live video=ofonly??? the semi default boot
> parameter and eventually got to a black screen . . . I would need to be
> reminded on what the boot parameters for the iMac are . . . .

for fixing general issues with ppc, refer to this:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ
(there are many paragraphs of discussion about proper boot parameters
and different options for different graphics chips)

however, this may still be an issue:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/1371651

> However, on the iBook, which I might actually try the install on, I used
> "live-nosplash-powerpc video=radeonfb: 1024x768-32@60" . . . . And that
> got me to a clean resolution GUI desktop!!!

the fix that i have seen for the blank GUI is "quiet splash" but
perhaps the nosplash fixed it in this case?

Yes, for me this bug is fixed.

>
> that means this one's fixed.
>

Thanks for the link, I may check into it, but low probability of time to
get 14.10 running on the iMac . . . I'm simply assuming it is "unsupported"
. . . vis video drivers . . . I heard "nv" is no longer available, etc.

>
>
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ
> (there are many paragraphs of discussion about proper boot parameters
> and different options for different graphics chips)
>

This 1371651***might*** be an issue on the iMac, since the screen went
green/black to black, as it does w/o proper xorg.conf file . . . I can't
tell if it gets to lightdm, of course on the "live desktop" I think it just
goes to the desktop, right? And, same thing on iBook, since I booted the
live version it just went to Desktop.

>
> however, this may still be an issue:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/1371651
>
> On the iBook it is not a "blank GUI" . . . it is a GUI that freezes or I
guess we could say, "crashes" . . . but leaving the GUI present . . . all
the buttons and windows are there, but nothing responds. I would assume
that is a bug of some type, when I get time I'll try to file or find an
appropriate bug for the new problem . . . which isn't exactly new, since in
14.04 on the iBook, window dragging is "blotchy" . . . slow, and scrolling
is slow . . . . So, whatever that issue is has either not been handled or
has possibly worsened on the PPC platform?

The "nosplash" thing I got from the Yaboot "tab" key . . . the "quiet
splash" thing had to do with the fix for another bug on "gdm" or lightdm??

F

>
> the fix that i have seen for the blank GUI is "quiet splash" but
> perhaps the nosplash fixed it in this case?
>
> --
>

Yes, it is fixed for me, too, now. The 2014-10-05 Desktop ppc image boots. Even the graphics work without passing boot parameters! Nicely done.

Yes, it is fixed for me (iBook G3 600 Mhz) too.
I ran an update which installed kernel 3.16.0-22.29-powerpc-smp. I didn't test the iso yet.