always wants to do a dist-upgrade if some packages are held back, check should be more intelligent

Bug #61109 reported by Brian J. Murrell
4
Affects Status Importance Assigned to Milestone
update-manager (Ubuntu)
Fix Released
Medium
Michael Vogt

Bug Description

Whenever I run update-manager now, it tells me it wants to do a dist-upgrade. I say no and go through the (non dist-)upgrade process and everything update and there are no new updates that need applying. Even allowing update-manager to then try the dist-upgrade that it says it needs produces a dialog that says that there are no updates needed.

Obviously the assessment that a dist-upgrade needs doing is inaccurate.

Why do I care? Because the updater for the dist-upgrade is less useful than the regular update-manager as it does not allow me to look at the changelogs for the packages to be dist-upgraded. Perhaps if this were fixed I wouldn't care about doing a dist-upgrade every time. Maybe I would still though.

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Sebastian Heinlein (glatzor) wrote :

In an earlier version update-manager didn't show updates that update-manager could not handle. Please make sure that you use the latest update-manager.

Run "apt-get -u dist-upgrade" in a terminal to check if there are any outstanding updates.

The dialog only appears on development distributions and if third party repositories are in use.

Changed in update-manager:
status: Unconfirmed → Needs Info
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Michael Vogt (mvo) wrote :

Thanks for your bugreport.

Could you please attach the files in /var/log/dist-upgrade/* to this bugreport? That should give us a better understanding about what is going on.

Thanks,
 Michael

Changed in update-manager:
importance: Untriaged → Medium
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Brian J. Murrell (brian-interlinx) wrote : Re: [Bug 61109] Re: always wants to do a dist-upgrade

On Mon, 2006-25-09 at 10:58 +0000, Michael Vogt wrote:
> Thanks for your bugreport.
>
> Could you please attach the files in /var/log/dist-upgrade/* to this
> bugreport? That should give us a better understanding about what is
> going on.

I think as of the most recent release(s) everything is working fine wrt
to choosing whether dist-upgrade is needed or not.

It's still annoying that through the dist-upgrade path I cannot see the
package summaries/changes the way I can through the upgrade path. It
seems to me that those two UIs should be the same. There is really, to
the user, nothing different about those processes.

b.

--
My other computer is your Microsoft Windows server.

Brian J. Murrell

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Michael Vogt (mvo) wrote : Re: always wants to do a dist-upgrade

I agree that having two UIs is not really a optinaml solution. We will rethink this for edgy+1.

OTOH its not that bad becaue on a "normal" stable system the user will never see the dist-upgrade GUI. On stable it is only required if you do a CDROM upgrade without network and get networking later or with unofficial sources in your sources.list.

Changed in update-manager:
status: Needs Info → Confirmed
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Michael Vogt (mvo) wrote :

The problem that it keeps prompting even if nothing changes is fixed now. The problem that a new GUI opens is not, but that should be a seperate bugreport IMHO.

Changed in update-manager:
assignee: nobody → mvo
status: Confirmed → Fix Released
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