Error in update manager

Bug #63645 reported by Damaraland
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casper (Ubuntu)
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Bug Description

Binary package hint: adept-updater

I have asked a complete installation of the ubuntu 6.10 beta and i have the following errors generated

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Damaraland (damaraland) wrote :
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Damaraland (damaraland) wrote :
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Damaraland (damaraland) wrote :
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Damaraland (damaraland) wrote :
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John Vivirito (gnomefreak) wrote :

do you have ubuntu-desktop installed? please check with apt-cache policy ubuntu-desktop.

Changed in adept:
status: Unconfirmed → Needs Info
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Damaraland (damaraland) wrote :

I'm sorry but I don't really understand the question. Perhaps I din't explain myself very well.
I executed the CD for installation ubuntu-desktop 6.10 beta.
The desktop is running ok. The first thing I did befor the installation is ask for an "upgrade" and is during this process where I have the error.

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John Vivirito (gnomefreak) wrote :

On your dapper system before trying to upgrade you need to have ubuntu-desktop installed or its a good chance the upgrade will fail. it sounds like you are using the cd to upgrade your system but if you have packages that are not on the cd they cant be upgraded and may fail. the ubuntu-desktop package isnt installed because you can use gnome. Please check if you have it before attempting upgrade. Is there a reason you didnt just change the sources.list file to point to edgy instead of dapper and sudo apt-get update than sudo apt-get dist-upgrade? where i said ubuntu-desktop that goes the same for kubuntu-desktop.

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John Vivirito (gnomefreak) wrote :

changed package to update manager from adept. You would get this issue if it was adept or synaptic.

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Damaraland (damaraland) wrote :

I'm not upgrading from dapper. I'm upgrading from edgy-beta.
I din't change the sources.list. In fact I don't chage anything at all. I start from CD

I repeat the steps I did:
1) Execute edgy 6.10-desktop Beta from CD in a brand new PC. Nothing in the hard disk.
2) Run update manager. This program tells me I have to upgrade to a new version. I guess here I'm upgrading to a newer Beta.
3) I 'say' ok to everything and I have these two errors.
4) Whatever is the bug I don't do anything at all but to connect to Internet while the system is updating.

Obs:
- At the end I can't install edgy ( bug 63358)

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mc44 (mc44) wrote :

You mean you are trying to update while in the live CD before installing?

You should run the installer to install edgy on your hard drive, then run update manager.

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mc44 (mc44) wrote :

(i.e boot into the hard drive installed version of edgy, and run update manager)

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John Vivirito (gnomefreak) wrote :

after you install edgy from cd remove the cd during reboot than enable the sources.list file to use the net instead of cd than sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade.

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Damaraland (damaraland) wrote :

Yes I did upgrade before installation.

I can't install becouse I have another bug.
I'm just telling the steps that took me to the error to help to find out the problem.
The CD lets me to upgrade before installation.I guess it's better to update just in case the are some bugs that are already solved ( as it is in my case).

At the end if I did that, if just becouse the program lets me do that. If I shouldn't be able to do that then report a bug not to let upgrade before installation.

Changed in casper:
importance: Undecided → Low
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John Vivirito (gnomefreak) wrote :

I marked this in casper because after talking with sfllaw we decided the first thing that needs to be addressed is the livecd offering an upgrade before installing. damaraland i think you have a few bugs on this one bug ticket. can you please give us a description of each bug like installer=cant install due to ... package= explain. thank you

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Damaraland (damaraland) wrote :

I thought with the .log files was OK and didn't need more explanations.

In this bug I just marked some the errors that appeared while I was installing. I have also opened #58773 and #58773. I know there are problems with RAID VT8251 and I am dreaming to 2.6.18 to come out soon!

My suggestion is that in this "offering upgrade" in the beggining would update only the bug fixes, at least in the Alpha and Beta versions. For me I made me waste a lot of time(*). I guess this way you will, and we, save time and have a few less duplicated bugs too(**).

(*) I had to reinstall 5 times to know what was going on with language packages and oppenoffice upgrading when I wasn't sure I could install al all.
(**) I found out too than doing manual upgrade some bugs I was going to report were solved.

Anything more that I find I will report.

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John Vivirito (gnomefreak) wrote :

sorry ubuntu will not be using 2.6.18. the upgrades that the livecd offered you cant be wrote to hd during install unless you save them to diska nd install them after you install ubuntu. im not real sure why the livecd had given you the option to upgrade i have never seen that before. if you install from livecd without doing the upgrades does it work?

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Damaraland (damaraland) wrote :

It will sometime use 2.6.18, I hope soon. If not I will move to Suse. Anyway with 2.6.17 my hd works ( RAID doesn't).

Well, be sure it lets upgrade before installation becouse that's what I did. And I think it's not a bad idea becouse as I told you before there were more bugs before the upgrading. Before the upgrading it din't even let me execute the installation. After the upgrading it did.

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John Vivirito (gnomefreak) wrote :

ubuntu will go from 2.6.17 to 2.6.19 most likely as it has in the past. but either way this kernel topic is offtopic for this bug please try the forums or IRC thank you.

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Damaraland (damaraland) wrote :

Yes maybe. I am just trying to give hints to find the problem. I don't know if kernel matters for this bug or not.
You should find out what took to the error instead of keep telling me that I didn't do something the program had let me do and telling me than I can't upgrade when the program had let me upgrade.
I didn't invent the error message I posted. I t was the program who gave me that error.

If you want me to give more specific information I'll very happy to give it to you.

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John Vivirito (gnomefreak) wrote :

The kernel has nothing to do with these errors. the errors you are getting i never stated they were not true as i do believe them. can you insert the livecd as you did before instead of upgrading please just install as is that way we can tell where it is messing up.

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Tollef Fog Heen (tfheen) wrote :

This is not a bug in casper. Please file appropriate bugs on each of the packages.

Changed in casper:
status: Needs Info → Rejected
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Damaraland (damaraland) wrote : Re: [Bug 63645] Re: Error in update manager

It wasn't me who said it was Casper's error, it was gnomefreak@gmail.
com. Why did you close this bug?

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Damaraland (damaraland) wrote :

Why did you close this bug? It wasn't me who said it was Casper's error.

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John Vivirito (gnomefreak) wrote :

damaraland ok the bug is closed because we cant have more than one bug per bug report as it gets confusing. Can you please install edgy from the livecd without upgrading first and see if it works? Also what type of harddrive is edgy going to be installed on? and can i please have the bug numbers to the other bugs you reported from this bug.

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John Vivirito (gnomefreak) wrote :

From the term.log file i see that the time was too far ahead so it wouldnt work. the time on desktop should read same time as in the bios if not you get warnings/errors about it. that is not a bug. the update-notifier was disabled on the edgy livecd so im not sure why it prompted you to upgrade before installing.

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