Ubuntu
upstart package

Should require upstart-compat-sysv

Bug #67030 reported by David Kastrup
2
Affects Status Importance Assigned to Milestone
upstart (Ubuntu)
Fix Released
Undecided
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Bug Description

Binary package hint: upstart

apt-get install upstart
on a system updated from Dapper to Edgy will remove the sysvinit package without installing upstart-compat-sysv, effectively rendering the system completely unoperative.

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Scott James Remnant (Canonical) (canonical-scott) wrote :

It does ...

Recommends: upstart-compat-sysv, upstart-logd, startup-tasks, system-services

     `Recommends'
          This declares a strong, but not absolute, dependency.

          The `Recommends' field should list packages that would be found
          together with this one in all but unusual installations.

Changed in upstart:
status: Unconfirmed → Fix Released
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David Kastrup (dak) wrote : Re: [Bug 67030] Re: Should require upstart-compat-sysv

Scott James Remnant <email address hidden> writes:

> It does ...
>
> Recommends: upstart-compat-sysv, upstart-logd, startup-tasks, system-
> services
>
> `Recommends'
> This declares a strong, but not absolute, dependency.
>
> The `Recommends' field should list packages that would be found
> together with this one in all but unusual installations.
>
>
> ** Changed in: upstart (Ubuntu)
> Status: Unconfirmed => Fix Released

The dependency in my book _is_ an absolute one. The system goes dead
without it.

--
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum

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Scott James Remnant (Canonical) (canonical-scott) wrote :

Not true,

It's entirely legimate to install the upstart init daemon and then construct your own events in /etc/event.d without taking those provided by the distribution.

That's why the dependency is a "Recommends", it would be unusual for them not to be installed, but it is permitted in a strict packaging sense.

Of course, you don't have a supported Ubuntu machine, but then you don't anyway because you've clearly removed the "ubuntu-minimal" package which absolutely _depends_ on them as you suggest

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David Kastrup (dak) wrote :

Scott James Remnant <email address hidden> writes:

> Not true,
>
> It's entirely legimate to install the upstart init daemon and then
> construct your own events in /etc/event.d without taking those
> provided by the distribution.
>
> That's why the dependency is a "Recommends", it would be unusual for
> them not to be installed, but it is permitted in a strict packaging
> sense.
>
> Of course, you don't have a supported Ubuntu machine, but then you
> don't anyway because you've clearly removed the "ubuntu-minimal"
> package which absolutely _depends_ on them as you suggest

Well, my system (something that started out as a WW at one point of
time) did not have an ubuntu-minimal installed...

--
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum

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