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Mary (kayak10309) wrote : Re: [Bug 235399] Re: "Print black" does not use black ink cartridge

LOL - I was in the HP website and finally found out for myself what the LIP
was for! You can understand why I ask to keep things simple for me
.

I have found since these discussions began I have more options for printing
than I previously had thought. The tabs themselves do indeed offer the dpi
option which I thought I did not have, amongst other options. BUT the options
sort of disappear after printing or turning off the puter, so I'm wondering
if one can make the chosen options stay put, until one wants to change them in
order to print other things.

I value these communications. Thanks very much!

In a message dated 12/4/2008 3:48:27 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
<email address hidden> writes:

Aaron, here I think HPLIP (Mary, HPLIP is HP's driver package for their
printers and multi-function devices) should get more user-friendly.

As HPLIP PPDs are noe generated by CUPS DDK and not by Foomatic any
more, one could introduce an "Installable Options" group in which the
administrator can tell which hardware configuration of the given printer
is actually used, like we know already from the PostScript models.
UIConstraints can hide or gray (depends on the application's UI) extra
trays or duplex settings if appropriate accessories are not installed.

For LIDIL printers (and generally printers where the driver must know
about the actually installed cartridges) the group can in addition
contain also an "InkSet" option, in which the user configures which
cartridges he has actually installed. An UI constraint will then exclude
the "Quality" settings which are not suitable for the given ink set.

This would break the PrintoutMode option, as the "Quality" settings
behind of some of its choices could be disqualified by the given ink
set. And we must conserve the PrintoutMode option, as in the Common
Printing Dialog
(https://www.linuxfoundation.org/en/OpenPrinting/CommonPrintingDialog)
it will translate into the Quick Preset buttons.

So we do not let the PrintoutMode option be a Foomatic composite option
any more. We let Quality, PrintoutMode, and InkSet all inject command
line fragments into the GhostScript/HPIJS command line. If Quality is
not set to "FromPrintoutMode" HPIJS will use the Quality setting (and
perhaps use the closest suitable or exit with an error if it conflicts
with InkSet). If Quality is set to "FromPrintoutMode" HPIJS will take
the PrintoutMode setting and look up in an internal table which Quality
it has to use dependent on the given InkSet and PrintoutMode.

This way the default setting of PrintoutMode is always "Normal" and of
Quality always "FromPrintoutMode". Modern printer setup tools
automatically ask the user for setting the "Installable Options" and so
the user gets asked which cartridges he has. So InkSet gets set
correctly and the printer makes always best use of the cartridges. And
if the suer switches to "Draft", "High", or "Photo" HPIJS uses the
Quality setting which makes best use of the cartridges in these modes.

Aaron (or anyone else there at HP), what do you think?

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"Print black" does not use black ink cartridge
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/235399
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Status in HP Linux Imaging and Printing: New
Status in “hplip” source package in Ubuntu: New

Bug description:
Binary package hint: openoffice.org

If I want to save money and print black text with black ink, I have to
select the "greyscale" printout mode. Of course, when I do that, my images also
come out black & white. There are evidently workarounds, or I can run the pages
through twice and hope the alignment is perfect, but I don't think that
should be necessary.

I'm running Kubuntu Hardy (8.04) with linux kernel 2.6.24-17-generic.

The version of OpenOffice.org is 1:2.4.0-3ubuntu6.

My printer is an HP Officejet 5610 All-in-One, which is a USB printer.

I thank you in advance for everything you do.

ProblemType: Bug
Architecture: i386
Date: Tue May 27 22:04:32 2008
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 8.04
NonfreeKernelModules: ath_hal
Package: openoffice.org-core 1:2.4.0-3ubuntu6
PackageArchitecture: i386
ProcEnviron:
PATH=/usr/lib/openoffice/program:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr
/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
LANG=en_US.UTF-8
SHELL=/bin/bash
SourcePackage: openoffice.org
Uname: Linux 2.6.24-17-generic i686

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