Comment 103 for bug 375345

Take suggestions and put up a vote in the forums.

2009/8/15 José Tomás Atria <email address hidden>

> I just wanted to chip in with a +1 to Matthew. I was (am?) one of the
> more vocal critics of the name decision, and stated my position in
> very strong terms above (something i later apologised for), but I too
> think that the whole point of the bug report was to submit the issue
> to the sanction of the community council. Since the CC discussed it
> and reached a solution, even one that i personally don't agree with, i
> think the bug report should be closed.
>
> You can't win 'em all, and i think that community is very much about
> accepting things even when they don't go your way.
>
> just my two cents...
>
> On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Paul Sladen<email address hidden>
> wrote:
> > Matthew: Indeed, if you (as one of the proponents of the issue) are
> > willing and comfortable with closing the bug now, then I would recommend
> > doing so---it would solve an impasse in the way that corporate closure
> > cannot; and the item can finally be removed from the CC agenda.
> >
> > --
> > "Ubuntu One" name creates confusion
> > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/375345
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> >
>
>
> --
> entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem
>
> --
> "Ubuntu One" name creates confusion
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/375345
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> Status in Ubunet: Incomplete
> Status in Ubuntu: Confirmed
>
> Bug description:
> The usage of the word Ubuntu in the context of "Ubuntu One" is inconsistent
> with the Trademark Policy outlined at
> http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/trademarkpolicy
>
> Specifically of note are the following:
>
> "The objective of the Ubuntu trademark policy is to encourage widespread
> use of the Ubuntu trademarks by the Ubuntu community while controlling that
> use in order to avoid confusion on the part of Ubuntu users and the general
> public, to maintain the value of the image and reputation of the trademarks
> and to protect them from inappropriate or unauthorised use."
> The danger of confusion among users and the general public about whether
> this new service is part of or associated with Ubuntu is extremely high.
>
> "there is no commercial intent behind the use"
> The service has clear and stated commercial intent.
>
> "what you are referring to is in fact Ubuntu. If someone is confused into
> thinking that what isn't Ubuntu is in fact Ubuntu, you are probably doing
> something wrong"
> The service is not Ubuntu and has no association with Ubuntu as a product
> or community. It merely runs on and works with Ubuntu, on equal footing
> with other applications like Apache, Firefox, or an Ubuntu user's blog.
>
> "there is no suggestion (through words or appearance) that your project is
> approved, sponsored, or affiliated with Ubuntu or its related projects
> unless it actually has been approved by and is accountable to the Ubuntu
> Community Council"
> I am not aware of any such approval or even discussion by the Community
> Council at this time.
>
> "If you are producing new software which is intended for use with or on
> Ubuntu, you may use the Trademark in a way which indicates the intent of
> your product. For example, if you are developing a system management tool
> for Ubuntu, acceptable project titles would be "System Management for
> Ubuntu" or "Ubuntu Based Systems Management". We would strongly discourage,
> and likely would consider to be problematic, a name such as UbuntuMan,
> Ubuntu Management, ManBuntu, etc. Furthermore, you may not use the
> Trademarks in a way which implies an endorsement where that doesn't exist,
> or which attempts to unfairly or confusingly capitalise on the goodwill or
> brand of the project."
> The service clearly falls under the latter list of examples similar to
> UbuntuMan, and as such is named unacceptably. Furthermore it appears to be
> attempting to capitalize on the brand, which is similarly explicitly
> prohibited.
>
>
> Proposed fix:
> Rename the service to not include the words "UBUNTU, KUBUNTU, EDUBUNTU, and
> XUBUNTU" nor "any mark ending with the letters UBUNTU or BUNTU", or in an
> acceptably non-ambiguous manner such as "Cloud Storage Solution for Ubuntu".
>