bluetooth indicator disappears after turning off bluetooth

Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users.

Same here on 14.04. Actually need a reboot to see it disappear after switched off.

See bug #1368856 for touch fix

Remove rtm14 tag as this is tracking desktop

The current behavior is because it was by design, as per the old design document at <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bluetooth#Indicator_and_menu>: "When Bluetooth is on, the indicator icon should appear in the status bar. When Bluetooth is off, to save space the Bluetooth indicator should not be present at all."

Unless there is a better / more current document I should refer to, it looks like the latest available spec for the Bluetooth indicator is in https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/document/d/1OyHUg_uUfmhDNa-9UrMc1tZ_eH_99PEU_V2l1YFA1UY/edit# on page 17.

I spoke too soon -- the phone UX spec has the same terminology as the wiki wrt when the indicator should be visible. Regardless, as pat-mcgowan pointed out this bug is for desktop so the phone UX spec is moot.

That brings us back to my original point, the current visibility logic is as specified by design in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bluetooth#Indicator_and_menu.

I'm also on 14.04 and can confirm the behaviour Andre described in post #4: If I turn off bluetooth the indicator disappears after the next reboot. As long as bluetooth stays turned on the indicator remains visible regardless of rebooting.

If bluetooth is turned off and the indicator is not visible I can reactivate it through the system settings – but after the turning-on bluetooth keeps being deactivated and only the indicator becomes visible again (greyed out; regardless of how many times I try to activate it in the system settings, the switch always rebounds)! At least I'm then able to activate bluetooth again through the indicator.

Another bug I've noticed (I guess it's related to this one): If bluetooth is deactivated but the indicator is visible (greyed out) and I click on the switch to enable bluetooth visibility in the indicator (without actually enabling bluetooth beforehand) the indicator crashes (and disappears of course). Naturally it seems weird to turn visibility on while bluetooth is actually disabled but it is still a bug! To improve usability and consistency the visibility switch should be inactive (i.e. greyed out) while the switch to enable bluetooth is "off".

I gotta add that sometimes after boot-up the indicator works as expected i.e. is visible although bluetooth is turned off. I can't tell why it works correctly from time to time and then fails again. If I happen to identify a pattern I'll post about it here...

Then this is a bug of design/UX.

1) Why is there an option ON/OFF in the tray icon's dropdown if you can only use OFF?
2) Also, why does it say "Show Bluetooth status in the menu bar" in Bluetooth settings window – when it _only_ shows status when it's on (shows nothing when it's off)?
3) I often turn bluetooth on and off (almost daily), so it's quite inconvenient to have to go to bluetooth settings every time I want it back on (I have to use two different locations to do the same action: switch the state of my bluetooth adapter)

My proposal: in "Bluetooth" settings window replace the "Show Bluetooth status in the menu bar" with a dropdown: "Always show Bluetooth status in the menu bar", "Show when on", "Don't show in menu bar".

How do I reach someone responsible for this particular UX design?