Nautilus does not warn when deleting read-only files

I can reproduce this on Feisty: Nautilus trashes and deletes a read-only file without any warning.

I also reproduced this on Gutsy.

I can reproduce this on Hardy, nautilus version 2.21.6. I don't get any message when deleting a write protected file in nautilus, although when I use rm in a terminal I get rm: remove write-protected regular file `test'?

I think this is rather important, and should be fixed.

I reproduced this on Hardy-Alpha4, too. Nautilus 2.22.0

Reproduced this on Hardy-Final too, Nautilus 1:2.22.2-0ubuntu5

Issue still seen in Intrepid-Alpha6, nautilus 1:2.24.0-0ubuntu1

Issue still in Jaunty-Alpha5, nautilus 1:2.25.91-0ubuntu1

This is not a duplicate of #42761! Please remove duplicate status.

This issue was also seen in Ubuntu 9.04, nautilus 2.26.2

Nautilus generally should warn before deleting files, not only for read-only files. Some notebook keyboard layouts are bad designed to press 'del' by accident. Sometimes you don't recognize that you have moved some files to the trash by accidentally pressing 'del'.

Assuming that you mean "Delete" and not "Move to Trash", I cannot reproduce this bug on Jaunty.

This is not a 'paper cut' as it is unlikely to be encountered during the first day using Ubuntu.

The bug description reveals a misunderstanding of the permissions system. File creation and deletion are operations on the _containing directory_ and are affected by the permissions set on that directory. You can create and delete files if you have +w on the parent directory. File permissions, on the other hand, don't have any influence on that.

As a consequence the statement
> You have to be the owner of the file to do this.
is wrong, too. Try it: Create a file with permissions 400 and owner "root" in your home directory. You will be able to delete it even as a normal user. I repeat: This is not a bug, but the way unixoid permissions work.

In addition, this behavior is completely consistent with the permission display in Nautilus when the "show_advanced_permissions" switch is off.

Now, since that seems to be a common misunderstanding, the GNU project decided to add a warning for that special case to 'rm'. However, that is clearly an enhancement request, and not a bug.

@ Lightbreeze: are you sure? I mean, I don't really know whether this bug can be considered as a paper-cut or even as a bug itself, but I don't think it should be marked as 'invalid' by the reasons you proposed. If it's a confirmed bug in nautilus, it will affect a large number of people. Please expose further reasons for marking this as invalid.

A warning is shown when removing _any_ file from the hard drive, including read-only files. "Move to Trash" does not warn for any file.

a) this bug means any dialog removing files should warn that some of those files are read-only, rather than showing a generic "Are you sure you want to permanently delete[...]".

b) this bug means the dialog for emptying items from the Trash should warn that some files are read-only.

c) this bug means warning before moving read-only files to Trash.

I'm not sure which of these best describes the problem, could I get feedback to help make this clear, thanks!

@ Lorenzo: Thanks for picking me up on this, I may have been hasty, let's just leave this as Incomplete for now.

I think a warning when moving files to the trash would be appropriate. When the Trash is cleared, Nautilus does not warn anymore, when read-only files are removed from there and since using the Trash is default in Ubuntu/GNOME, there should at least be a notification when you move a read-only file to it.

Marking as fixed to reflect the upstream status.

I am using Ubuntu 13.10 x86_64 and
looks like not fixed in Ubuntu 13.10 x86_64.