two knemo icons while running anything with kdesu

I could not reproduce is as default behaviour. I did in Gutsy:

    kdesu konsole

and no knemo instance shows up. What are you doing to
trigger the second knemo instance?

FWIW:
knemo is a implemented via a kded service. Every KDE
application needs a kded running. So
when you run an kde app in the login environment of
another user, a second kded is started for the user and
therefore a second knemo is run.

With this in mind I can reproduce you problem with some handish work:

       kdesu konsole

then as root in this window

HOME=/root
cp ~<myuser>/.Xauthority ~/
kwrite &
ps -ef | grep kded

now a another kded is listed and therefore another knemo.
Why this happens by default is not clear.

Please give a concrete example that triggers the second knemo.

Can you run: kdesu konsole

  o is another knemo running?
  o is there a new kded process (ps -ef | grep kded)
  o what the output of
     printenv $HOME
     printenv $KDEHOME
    when you run in in the kdesu konsole window

Achim

Sorry, that's

  printenv HOME
  printenv KDEHOME

without the $.

The same thing happens in my kubuntu Gutsy:
Every time I run a program with kdesu (for example, when I run adept) a second knemo icon appears in systray.

Replying to questions of Achim Bohmet, when I run (Alt - F2) kdesu konsole:

    Yes, another knemo run, (another knemo icon appears in systray)
    Yes, there is a new kded process:

        # ps -ef | grep kded
           jj 7360 1 1 09:09 ? 00:00:26 kded [kdeinit] --new-startup
           root 7992 1 1 09:39 ? 00:00:02 kded [kdeinit]
           root 8018 7995 0 09:42 pts/1 00:00:00 grep kded

    and this is the output of printenv HOME and printenv KDEHOME in kdesu konsole window:

        # printenv HOME
            /root
        # printenv KDEHOME
                                             (nothing, there is not output)

Greetings.
Kubunsero.

just to confirm this

whenever I run adept updater it starts up another instance of kNemo in the System Tray

when the update has completed and I close it the second instance of kNemo exits (a few seconds later)

I am running kubuntu 7.10 updated as of this morning

I have not noticed any ill effects of this

Cheers,

Michael Hind

I can not reproduce this following any of the examples of above. I am attaching a screenshot showing Adept Updater running w/o a 2nd KNemo icon in the task bar.

I can confirm Michael Hind's post ... Adept will also trigger a duplicate which just happens to be the root's instance of it. I know this as I have a distinct theme for myself and the root stuff hasn't been altered.

I would post a screen shot except for the fact I may have found yet another 7.10 bug. :P

Addendum:

I followed the same instructions kubunsero did (per Achim Bohmet) with exactly the same results.

I manually killed the extra (root) process.

I have noticed one thing though; I can start Adept, close it, wait a few minutes and then run kdesu dolphin (or whatever) and not get asked for a pass. Could this be why the other knemo fires up?

> I have noticed one thing though; I can start Adept, close it, wait a few minutes and then run kdesu dolphin (or whatever) and not get asked for a pass.

IIRC this is a feature gained with transition from Kdesu to Kdesudo. Back to the topic:

1. besides two knemo icons you get also two pop-up windows when inserting cd,
2. installing kde4 from ppa fixes the issue for me. Weird.

Confirming due to comments, however I am unable to reproduce this issue.

I permanently stopped it.

kdesu kcontrol~Service Manager ... uncheck KNemo and stop the service.

Fixed in Intrepid.