users should be able to install applications by downloading a shortcut to Synaptic

Bug #160654 reported by Stephen Sinclair
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Bug Description

This is a wish-list item, request-for-comment, or whatnot.

I often read on forums that users find it "simple" and "easy" in Windows to be able to download an application installer and then just run it to install the program. This is somehow seen as easier and more straight-forward than loading up Synaptic, even though it is not as safe. Similarly on OS X, users can download dmg files, mount them with a click and then drag an application where they want it. This is also often seen as easier than launching Synaptic an searching for a program.

I was thinking that it might be beneficial to allow people to put small files on websites which, when downloaded and double-clicked, would instruct Synaptic to install a particular package. Synaptic would download the actual application from the repository, so there would be no problems with distribution of debs. Synaptic could support this by generating these files which developers and users could post anywhere on the web. When recommending a program to someone, these shortcuts would be the easiest way to send a "link" to someone. It would provide an easy shortcut instead of making the user search through the repository him/herself.

For instance, a user would visit a website for a particular application. The application developer could have, in addition to the Windows installer and the OS X dmg file, a Ubuntu Synaptic file. The user then simply chooses the Ubuntu Synaptic file, which he then double-clicks, and the application begins to install seamlessly. Ideally, an icon would then appear right on the desktop or on the panel, so it will be obvious how to launch the new application.

This would be exactly equivalent to the user searching the repository using Synaptic and choosing to install the application, except easier. It would also provide a kind of psycological closure -- the user can be sure that what he installed is what he was reading about on the web site. I believe this would help dispell a lot of criticism about the difficulty of installing software on Ubuntu. (Which is silly, of course.)

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Chris Halse Rogers (raof) wrote :

You seem to be talking about apturl <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptFirefoxFileHandler> which is available in Gutsy :).

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Peter Cruickshank (petercruickshank) wrote :

Actually, he seems to be talking about .deb files. He wants something to download and double click on. .deb files work like this by default with gdebi in ubuntu. Really, all he wants is for developers to actually MAKE the deb files and host them on their web pages.

Of course, your apturl is even easier, but it doesn't seem to be what he's trying to describe.

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Peter Cruickshank (petercruickshank) wrote :

Oh, and Steve, for examples of this in action, see the programs hosted at
http://www.getdeb.net
... these are in .deb packages that you download and double click on, and then they install and add an icon in your menu.

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Stephen Sinclair (radarsat1) wrote : Re: [Bug 160654] Re: users should be able to install applications by downloading a shortcut to Synaptic

Thanks for the comments. What I was talking about it maybe more
similar to apturl. Thanks, this is the first I've heard of it.
However, I was really talking about just having small files that could
be downloaded over http, which would then be double-clicked by the
user when they are on his desktop. I've never been a big fan of the
"let's invent a new URL format" solution when an http link would do
just fine. But in any case, apturl looks interesting and maybe covers
this need I was talking about, even though it's not exactly how I'd
implement it.

I'll just restate that I was definitely _not_ talking about having
developers host .deb files on their websites. I said this
specifically in my post. I was talking about installing programs from
the Ubuntu repos.

Thanks, I guess we could consider this closed since I didn't know
about apturl. I would be great to see people start using it.

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