The paste key does not paste

Bug #164903 reported by Christopher Yeleighton
2
Affects Status Importance Assigned to Milestone
Ubuntu
Invalid
Low
Unassigned

Bug Description

Binary package hint: gedit

Steps to reproduce:
1. Select some text
2. Press Copy
3. Place the insertion point somewhere else
4. Press Paste
Expected: the copied text should get pasted
Observed: Nothing happens

ProblemType: Bug
Architecture: amd64
Date: Sat Nov 24 19:43:21 2007
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 7.10
ExecutablePath: /usr/bin/gedit
NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia
Package: gedit 2.20.3-0ubuntu1
PackageArchitecture: amd64
ProcCmdline: gedit file:///home/giecrilj/scan2X.txt
ProcCwd: /home/giecrilj
ProcEnviron:
 PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
 LANG=pl_PL.UTF-8
 SHELL=/bin/bash
SourcePackage: gedit
Uname: Linux a1dmin 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Sun Oct 14 21:45:15 GMT 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux

Tags: apport-bug
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Christopher Yeleighton (giecrilj) wrote :
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Pedro Villavicencio (pedro) wrote :

Thanks for your comments. This does not appear to be a bug report as such. We appreciate the difficulties you are facing, but it would make more sense to raise your question in the support tracker. http://launchpad.net/support

Changed in gedit:
assignee: nobody → desktop-bugs
status: New → Invalid
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Christopher Yeleighton (giecrilj) wrote :

I did and the question timed out.
<https://answers.launchpad.net/gedit/+question/18713>

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Christopher Yeleighton (giecrilj) wrote :

Since I got no answer (and I never expected one because it is at least a feature request), I changed the Status back to New.

Changed in gedit:
status: Invalid → New
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Sebastien Bacher (seb128) wrote :

What copy do you "press"? Copying text works fine here and nobody else complained which makes it likely to be a configuration issue on your installation

Changed in gedit:
importance: Undecided → Low
status: New → Incomplete
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Christopher Yeleighton (giecrilj) wrote :

I press the key labelled "Copy".

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Sebastien Bacher (seb128) wrote :

There is no such key on a standard keyboard. Does it work using the menu item or ctrl-C and ctrl-V?

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Christopher Yeleighton (giecrilj) wrote :

It depends on the standard. The Paste command works but the Paste key does not trigger it.

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Sebastien Bacher (seb128) wrote :

Thanks for taking the time to report this bug. Unfortunately we can't fix it, because your description didn't include enough information. You may find it helpful to read "How to report bugs effectively" <http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs.html>. We'd be grateful if you would then provide a more complete description of the problem.

 We have instructions on debugging some types of problems. <http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProcedures> Thanks!

Changed in gedit:
status: Incomplete → Invalid
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Christopher Yeleighton (giecrilj) wrote :

The information at <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProcedures> does not cover this case. I am sorry to say that but I cannot find any bug reporting guideline I have neglected. The right package is gedit because the bug occurs in gedit; general debugging procedures do not apply because it does not crash; no specific debugging procedures are available; I can repeat the problem; I hope it is not a feature of gedit (if it is, my bug is a feature request); my support request remained unaswered and timed out; my keyboard has a physical key labelled Paste; when I press it, nothing happens, which is contrary to common sense which tells me it should trigger the Paste action. What exactly is invalid or missing here?
The keyboard is actually A4Tech KBS-26.

Changed in gedit:
status: Invalid → Incomplete
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Sebastien Bacher (seb128) wrote :

The description lacked details and it took you several comment to actually write that you are using a key labelled "copy" on your keyboard. We don't have ressources to spend hours asking questions on the bugs not correctly described. Does this key work in other application?

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Christopher Yeleighton (giecrilj) wrote :

I wrote "Press Copy". Would it have been clearer if I had written "Press the Copy key"? It is customary to write "Press F1" instead of "Press the F1 key", or "Press Select" instead of "Press the Select key".
You can bind these keys in Terminal, which is actually quite convenient (much less work to do than the default binding Ctrl+Shift+V). I would appreciate if Terminal handled this key independently of any customary binding; this not the case right now but it seems to be a minor issue.

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Sebastien Bacher (seb128) wrote :

There is no copy on the standard PC keyboards and it was no obvious some have a such key so the bug was not easy to understand. Does the key work in other desktop application?

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Christopher Yeleighton (giecrilj) wrote :

That depends what standard you refer to. Select, for example, is a standard key for Sun keyboards (although I do not know its purpose, it did nothing when attached to HP Apollo), and IBM terminals have a host of very funny keys that are standard to them (hearsay).
Yes, it works in Terminal, see above. It seems I have to use a hammer to explain things here.

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Sebastien Bacher (seb128) wrote :

The standard PC keyboard is described on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_PC_keyboard and that's basically what you get on PC computers, though now they have multimedia keys. Do you get the issue in other graphical applications like firefox, evolution, nautilus? There is no reason this bug should be specific to gedit

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Christopher Yeleighton (giecrilj) wrote :

You referred to standard PC keyboards, not to standard IBM PC keyboards, although I admit that an IBM terminal is not a PC.
I said nowhere that this bug was specific to gedit. The controller part of X11 UI is notoriously inconsistent: pressing Ctrl+Delete means "delete the next word" in Nautilus but "Delete to the end of line" in Firefox, and Ctrl+K works nowhere except in Emacs, to my great disappointment. (It works in KDE but I have GNOME here.) And what I should expect from pressing the middle mouse button remains a mystery to me; I cannot figure it out from the behaviour, except for the simplest case when text has just been marked in the same application, and I cannot find any relevant guide. (I think there must be something in developers' documentation I do not have any reason to read.) Therefore I do not think you can invalidate this issue on conformance grounds.

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Sebastien Bacher (seb128) wrote :

the issue is invalid because you sent it on gedit and there is no reason it should be specific to this software

Changed in gedit:
status: Incomplete → Invalid
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Christopher Yeleighton (giecrilj) wrote :

However, I do not think it is possible to fix this issue everywhere without fixing it in gedit as well. If you know there is a common denominator, please use the "Also affects project" tool to create a redirection. If you do not, leave it open. Of course, a similar bug can be reported to other projects; since gedit is small and simple, why not start with gedit?
It can also happen that the common denominator exists but it is not a separate project; thus, fixing it on gedit would fix it everywhere. I do not have much hope about that but I cannot exclude that either.

Changed in gedit:
status: Invalid → Incomplete
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Sebastien Bacher (seb128) wrote :

because that's not a gedit issue, this key should be supported by xorg or xkeyboard-config or something similar, unassigning that's not a gedit bug

Changed in gedit:
assignee: desktop-bugs → nobody
status: Incomplete → New
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Christopher Yeleighton (giecrilj) wrote :

Both XOrg and XKeyboard-Config support this key, only GEdit fails to recognize its function.

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Gareth Fitzworthington (mapping-gp-deactivatedaccount) wrote :

The following may help.

To configure your keyboard follow this help page:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KeyTouch

To get this keyboard supported people with this keyboard should submit a "keyboard file" as shown here:
http://keytouch.sourceforge.net/howto_keyboard.php

This way this keyboard set-out will make it into future Linux distributions.

NOTE: If you have a USB keyboard then there is a USB kernel issue at present which inhibits the use of some special keys on some keyboards. More info here:
http://keytouch.sourceforge.net/index.php

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Christopher Yeleighton (giecrilj) wrote :

"If something does not work, just make an overlay".
How shall call this approach? Ubuntu 98?
−5

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Magnus S (magnuss) wrote :

Hi,
this bug report is getting old, so i'm closing it now. If this issue is still affecting you, please reopen.
To reopen the bug report you can click on the current status, under the Status column, and change the Status back to "New". Thanks again!

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