[jaunty] Presets should be updated because the ffmpeg version in Ubuntu is newer than in Debian

I set the bug to confirmed as I am pretty sure of this.

Hi,

I'm not sure we should be recommending the restricted-extras packages.
I'm not sure if there is a concrete policy on this, a suggests may be ok.
What would happen if I sponsored the rest of the changes without that one?

Thanks,

James

Sorry for taking so long to respond, I had a long holiday.

> I'm not sure we should be recommending the restricted-extras packages.
> I'm not sure if there is a concrete policy on this, a suggests may be ok.
> What would happen if I sponsored the rest of the changes without that one?

Basically that would be fine of course. But it would be really nice if
people that have the multiverse repositories enabled would pull in the
unstripped versions of ffmpeg, because without it most presets are
useless (that is why Debian has such a small amount of presets). On the
winff forums [1] most questions are when people are using a restricted
version of ffmpeg and are not able to convert the files to the type they
request. So indeed, at the very least have the suggests (I assume that
using Suggests would follow Debian-policy on the Recommends/Suggests).

Unfortunately the policies and license issues with ffmpeg are not very
understandable for the novice users. Would it be appropriate to mention
this in the description of the winff package?

Paul

[1] http://winff.org/forums

On Sat, 2009-01-03 at 16:48 +0000, Paul Gevers wrote:
> Sorry for taking so long to respond, I had a long holiday.
>
> > I'm not sure we should be recommending the restricted-extras packages.
> > I'm not sure if there is a concrete policy on this, a suggests may be ok.
> > What would happen if I sponsored the rest of the changes without that one?
>
> Basically that would be fine of course. But it would be really nice if
> people that have the multiverse repositories enabled would pull in the
> unstripped versions of ffmpeg, because without it most presets are
> useless (that is why Debian has such a small amount of presets). On the
> winff forums [1] most questions are when people are using a restricted
> version of ffmpeg and are not able to convert the files to the type they
> request. So indeed, at the very least have the suggests (I assume that
> using Suggests would follow Debian-policy on the Recommends/Suggests).

I believe that would be fine.

> Unfortunately the policies and license issues with ffmpeg are not very
> understandable for the novice users. Would it be appropriate to mention
> this in the description of the winff package?

This is a good idea. Would you like to propose an updated diff with
these changes?

Thanks,

James

> This is a good idea. Would you like to propose an updated diff with
> these changes?

Will do that tomorrow.

Paul

I have created a new debdiff with the discussed changes: suggests instead of recommends and extra text in the description.

I added a quick fix to Debian bug #510156 by adding xterm as a dependency.

I hope you can agree with the changes now.

Changelog:
winff (0.43-2ubuntu1) jaunty; urgency=low

  * Changed debian/preset.xml file to be in line with ffmpeg in jaunty.
  * Removed debian/presets_new.xml because already included in the debian/presets.xml
  * Updated debian/README.debian
  * Removed absolute path and extension from debian/desktop
  * Added suggest on (k|x|)ubuntu-restricted-extras to control file to support presets.
  * Added text to describtion to explain that the a user needs to install libavcodec-unstripped-XX to use all presets.
  * Added dependency on xterm (See Debian bug 510156)

 -- Paul Gevers <email address hidden> Mon, 05 Jan 2009 20:06:57 +0100

I just updated the Debian package, so this bug fix can wait until winff
is synced from Debian.

I will create a debdiff for the new version of winff.

Paul

The debdiff became a lot smaller with version 0.45.1-1. It is attached.

Changelog:
  * Changed rules file to install presets in line with ffmpeg in jaunty.
  * Updated debian/README.debian
  * Added suggest on (k|x|)ubuntu-restricted-extras to control file to support presets.
  * Added text to description to explain that the a user needs to install libavcodec-unstripped-XX to use all presets.

James (or any other possible sponsor),

Would you mind commenting on my last debdiff? If possible of course just implementing ;)

Paul