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amarok package

wish: add individual tracks from .cue files into the collection

Bug #45520 reported by seguso on 2006-05-19

This bug affects 2 people

Affects		Status	Importance	Assigned to	Milestone
	Amarok	Unknown	Medium	kde-bugs #187587
	amarok (Ubuntu)	Invalid	Wishlist	Unassigned

Bug Description

Binary package hint: amarok

Hello. This is a wish for Amarok.
Any listener of classical operas (e.g. La Traviata, Die Walkuere) will have this problem and is stuck with MS Windows for this reason.

PROBLEM
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Currently Amarok (and any other linux program I know) does not allow to listen to classical operas in a reasonable way. Two cases are possible:

1. if I rip my CDs one file per track, I hear a brief silence
as the track changes and Amarok is loading the next track.
This breaks the continuity of the music.

   ( this is not related to the notorious mp3 bug.
    The silence happens on any format, like flac, ape, wv,
    mpc, ogg, wav, and is due to Amarok loading the file)

2. if I rip my cd with a single file per CD, I hear no gap but
there is no easy way to move among tracks.

POSSIBLE SOLUTION
------------------------

One possible solution is to do what foobar2000 does on windows: understand cue files. When I click a cue file, Amarok should read the track names and times from it, and then load the corresponding audio file in the same folder. The corresponding file is a big single file (~650 MB) with an extension that can be ape, ogg, mp3, wv, flac, mpc, or wav. Amarok would then allow me to move quickly within the big file, by simply clicking a track name on the playlist. This would be the ideal solution because virtually all classical music lovers have their music in APE + CUE format. More seldom they have FLAC + CUE or MPC + CUE (just ask around).

Another possible solution is to make Amarok read ahead the next track, so as not to produce silence between tracks. This is what winamp does on windows. That is not ideal, because classical music lovers should reconvert their music to be one file per track.

See original description

seguso (maurizio-colucci) on 2006-05-19

description:

updated

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Yuriy Kozlov (yuriy-kozlov) wrote on 2006-05-19:

One of the new features in amarok 1.4:
Gapless playback for the xine engine

Is this what you're looking for?
I think some of the other programs already had this feature for some formats.

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seguso (maurizio-colucci) wrote on 2006-05-19:

This seems like the second solution I proposed. It is very desirable, but not the perfect solution ( which would be to understand CUE files ).

Thank you. I'd leave the wish open until CUE files are understood by Amarok, because opera listeners on Windows just _expect_ the player to understand CUE files like foobar2000.

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kko (kko) wrote on 2006-05-19:

I can confirm this, thank you for making the feature request for all of us. :-) See also bug 45518 for related discussion.

Changed in amarok:
status:	Unconfirmed → Confirmed

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Yuriy Kozlov (yuriy-kozlov) wrote on 2006-05-19: Re: wish: support for .cue files in amarok

Please see the upstream bugs on this:
http://bugs.kde.org/buglist.cgi?field0-0-0=product&type0-0-0=substring&value0-0-0=amarok&field0-0-1=component&type0-0-1=substring&value0-0-1=amarok&field0-0-2=short_desc&type0-0-2=substring&value0-0-2=amarok&field0-0-3=status_whiteboard&type0-0-3=substring&value0-0-3=amarok&field1-0-0=product&type1-0-0=substring&value1-0-0=cue&field1-0-1=component&type1-0-1=substring&value1-0-1=cue&field1-0-2=short_desc&type1-0-2=substring&value1-0-2=cue&field1-0-3=status_whiteboard&type1-0-3=substring&value1-0-3=cue

Looks like there is some support for CUE sheets already in there, and some work still needs to be done. Please follow up on upstream bugs on this as that's where the work needs to be done, and maybe some of the features you are looking for are already there. Assign the upstream task to the bug you find most relevant.

Changed in amarok:
status:	Confirmed → Rejected

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Andrew Ash (ash211) wrote on 2007-04-17:

Based on comments at http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106950, .cue files are already supported by Amarok.

Another upstream bug, http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=112477 for pulling out the track information from the .cue file and putting those tracks individually into the collection for searching, etc. That bug is now the only part left of seguso's original request.

Changed in amarok:
status:	Unconfirmed → Unknown
status:	Rejected → Confirmed

Bug Watch Updater (bug-watch-updater) on 2007-04-18

Changed in amarok:
status:	Unknown → Confirmed

Jonathan Thomas (echidnaman) on 2009-01-12

Changed in amarok:
status:	Confirmed → Triaged

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In KDE Bug Tracking System #187587, Simon-44ecklpsr (simon-44ecklpsr) wrote on 2009-03-19:

Version: 2.1-SVN (using 4.2.67 (KDE 4.2.67 (KDE 4.3 >= 20090318)), Gentoo)
Compiler: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc
OS: Linux (x86_64) release 2.6.26-tuxonice

hi,

it seems cue sheets are still under development so this is just a reminder:

* please also integrate the tracks defined in the cue sheet in the collection
* use cue sheet bookmarks for file that are in collection (currently works only when addy files using the file browser)

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In KDE Bug Tracking System #187587, nitro322 (nitro-legroom) wrote on 2009-08-03:

I've been testing out Amarok 2.1 and I noticed that bug 145661 is still present. Is fixing this behavior included in your reminder (I'm not really sure what that second bullet is supposed to mean)? If so, great! If not, I'll open a new bug report as to not hijack this one.

Thanks.

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In KDE Bug Tracking System #187587, Myriam Schweingruber (myriam) wrote on 2009-08-03:

Jared, the current testing environment is 2.2-git. Please check the current bugs lists at http://tinyurl.com/ourbugs and http://tinyurl.com/needsinfo before filing a new bug.

Bug Watch Updater (bug-watch-updater) on 2009-09-21

Changed in amarok:
status:	Confirmed → Fix Released

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In KDE Bug Tracking System #187587, Casey Link (unnamedrambler) wrote on 2009-09-21:

#10

*** Bug 191185 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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In KDE Bug Tracking System #187587, Lenzenmi (lenzenmi) wrote on 2009-09-21:

#11

*** This bug has been confirmed by popular vote. ***

Jonathan Thomas (echidnaman) on 2009-10-09

Changed in amarok:
status:	Fix Released → Unknown

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In KDE Bug Tracking System #187587, Komodo (komodo) wrote on 2009-11-20:

#12

Hi, something new ?
I really miss this feature.
I am not a programmer, but i don't understand where is the problem if it was fully working in 1.4.

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In KDE Bug Tracking System #187587, Fedora (fedora) wrote on 2009-11-20:

#13

Martin, you can not compare Amarok 2.x with Amarok 1.x. Amarok 2 has (almost) been a complete rewrite of the 1.x series and therefore it doesn't mean if it "was there" in 1.4, that it will be back in 2.0.

I still miss this feature too. I guess we have to wait just a little bit longer. :)

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In KDE Bug Tracking System #187587, Myriam Schweingruber (myriam) wrote on 2010-01-11:

#14

Moving to bugs

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In KDE Bug Tracking System #187587, Myriam Schweingruber (myriam) wrote on 2010-01-11:

#15

*** Bug 222157 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Bug Watch Updater (bug-watch-updater) on 2010-01-27

Changed in amarok:
status:	Unknown → Confirmed

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Harald Sitter (apachelogger) wrote on 2010-03-06:

Closing in favor of upstream report. Please refer there for furhter status updates.
Thanks.

Changed in amarok (Ubuntu):
status:	Triaged → Invalid

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In KDE Bug Tracking System #187587, Myriam Schweingruber (myriam) wrote on 2010-08-11:

#16

*** Bug 230272 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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In KDE Bug Tracking System #187587, RussianNeuroMancer (russianneuromancer) wrote on 2010-08-11:

#17

About marking 230272 bug as duplicate. If 230272 is duplicate then this bug can be closed only when Amarok will support embedded cue. I want to warn - support of embedded cue is a another difficult task then just support external cue (what about this bug), and better to implement cue support step by step - support external cue for first, and support of embedded cue later. Then better set 230272 openede like a different bug.

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In KDE Bug Tracking System #187587, jernejovc (mrepinc) wrote on 2010-08-11:

#18

What about if developers would first try to implement a partial solution like looking for cue sheet in a directory where file from collection is stored?

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In KDE Bug Tracking System #187587, RussianNeuroMancer (russianneuromancer) wrote on 2010-08-11:

#19

Yes, this is exactly what I propose.

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In KDE Bug Tracking System #187587, nitro322 (nitro-legroom) wrote on 2010-08-11:

#20

(In reply to comment #11)
> What about if developers would first try to implement a partial solution like
> looking for cue sheet in a directory where file from collection is stored?

Amarok already does that. However, it uses the cue sheet in a broken manner as described in bugs 209341 and 145661. I'd really rather see the developers prioritize fixing the existing cue sheet support before adding any new features.

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In KDE Bug Tracking System #187587, Vovochka (vovochka13) wrote on 2010-10-28:

#21

It's Amarok 2.3.2

But amarok still doesn’t react right on cue files in collections.
cue albums presents as a single file. Not as separate files :(

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In KDE Bug Tracking System #187587, Hagai Kariti (hkariti) wrote on 2010-12-11:

#22

Still doesn't work correctly in 2.6 Beta2. cue sheets albums in the collection are presented as single tracks (no bookmarks either). However, it seems to work correctly when adding cue albums not from the collection - if I drag the FLAC file to the playlist from a directory that's part of the collection, it doesn't work; if I symlink it to a different place it does work. Dragging the cue sheet doesn't work either way.

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In KDE Bug Tracking System #187587, Myriam Schweingruber (myriam) wrote on 2010-12-11:

#23

I am sure you mean 2.4 beta 1, there hasn't been any other release since.

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In KDE Bug Tracking System #187587, Hagai Kariti (hkariti) wrote on 2010-12-11:

#24

whoops, my bad. 4.6 beta2, amarok 2.4 beta1 :)

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In KDE Bug Tracking System #187587, False-Flax (hassium) wrote on 2011-01-02:

#25

Created attachment 55484
patch

I made a patch for Amarok 2.3.2 as a temporary solution. It works for me and my collection. Required to re-add tracks to the playlist. Does not work for drag-and-drop, only from popup menu.

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In KDE Bug Tracking System #187587, Myriam Schweingruber (myriam) wrote on 2011-01-04:

#26

Thanks for the patch, Anton. Could you please submit it to http://git.reviewboard.kde.org ? (you will need to register with http://identity.kde.org first)

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In KDE Bug Tracking System #187587, False-Flax (hassium) wrote on 2011-01-04:

#27

(In reply to comment #19)
> Thanks for the patch, Anton. Could you please submit it to
> http://git.reviewboard.kde.org ? (you will need to register with
> http://identity.kde.org first)

I did it.

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In KDE Bug Tracking System #187587, Simon-44ecklpsr (simon-44ecklpsr) wrote on 2011-01-17:

#28

still missing feature from 1.4 as the patch didn't get accepted

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In KDE Bug Tracking System #187587, Razvan-petruescu (razvan-petruescu) wrote on 2011-01-21:

#29

(In reply to comment #6)
> Martin, you can not compare Amarok 2.x with Amarok 1.x. Amarok 2 has (almost)
> been a complete rewrite of the 1.x series and therefore it doesn't mean if it
> "was there" in 1.4, that it will be back in 2.0.
>
> I still miss this feature too. I guess we have to wait just a little bit
> longer. :)

and longer...and longer...and longer...and longer...and longer (should I continue?)

Bug Watch Updater (bug-watch-updater) on 2011-02-04

Changed in amarok:
importance:	Unknown → Medium

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In KDE Bug Tracking System #187587, Myriam Schweingruber (myriam) wrote on 2011-05-10:

#30

*** Bug 272879 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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In KDE Bug Tracking System #187587, Myriam Schweingruber (myriam) wrote on 2011-06-04:

#31

This is an automated message from the triager:

Amarok 2.4.1 has been released on May 8 already. Could you please upgrade and test if you can still reproduce this bug?

Without feedback within a month we will close this bug as resolved.

Thank you for your understanding.

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In KDE Bug Tracking System #187587, sdeber (sdeber) wrote on 2011-06-04:

#32

(In reply to comment #24)
> This is an automated message from the triager:
>
> Amarok 2.4.1 has been released on May 8 already. Could you please upgrade and
> test if you can still reproduce this bug?
>
> Without feedback within a month we will close this bug as resolved.
>
> Thank you for your understanding.

Just tested, it still does not work in 2.4.1

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In KDE Bug Tracking System #187587, Myriam Schweingruber (myriam) wrote on 2011-06-04:

#33

Thank yo for the fast feedback.

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In KDE Bug Tracking System #187587, Myriam Schweingruber (myriam) wrote on 2011-06-05:

#34

From Amarok Development Sprint Randa 2011:

Ralf, could you have a look at this? This is the most hated bug in Amarok as of now. Bart suggest using bounded playback.

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In KDE Bug Tracking System #187587, Martin-vala (martin-vala) wrote on 2011-09-12:

#35

(In reply to comment #27)
> From Amarok Development Sprint Randa 2011:
>
> Ralf, could you have a look at this? This is the most hated bug in Amarok as of
> now. Bart suggest using bounded playback.

Hi All,

Currently i am testing Amarok 2.4.3 and finaly it is working. But still one small bug. When new song starts time of song still stays on 0:00 and it is playing first song again. But when i click on progress bar for example to 0:01 then correct song starts to play.

I think this is is quite easy to fix.

After that i will be soooo happy to play cue with ogg.

Thanks

Ciao

Martin

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In KDE Bug Tracking System #187587, sdeber (sdeber) wrote on 2011-09-12:

#36

Created attachment 63593
CUE file

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In KDE Bug Tracking System #187587, sdeber (sdeber) wrote on 2011-09-12:

#37

(In reply to comment #28)
> (In reply to comment #27)
> > From Amarok Development Sprint Randa 2011:
> >
> > Ralf, could you have a look at this? This is the most hated bug in Amarok as of
> > now. Bart suggest using bounded playback.
>
> Hi All,
>
> Currently i am testing Amarok 2.4.3 and finaly it is working. But still one
> small bug. When new song starts time of song still stays on 0:00 and it is
> playing first song again. But when i click on progress bar for example to 0:01
> then correct song starts to play.
>
> I think this is is quite easy to fix.
>
> After that i will be soooo happy to play cue with ogg.
>
> Thanks
>
> Ciao
>
> Martin

It does not seem to work for me, for example the file attached in Comment #29 is not recognized by the collection manager. I also tried to rename the file to CDImage.cue, but still it did not work.

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In KDE Bug Tracking System #187587, Mojedokumenty-u (mojedokumenty-u) wrote on 2011-11-10:

#38

Confirmed in Amarok 2.4.3 on KDE 4.7.2.

A user should be allowed to use an arbitrary name for the cue sheet.

When a music file is commited to the collection, amarok should perform a check if a cue sheet with the same file name exists, differing only in the extension.

Currently, cue sheets don't seem to work within file collection.

Strangely enough, drag and drop cue file support works as expected.

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In KDE Bug Tracking System #187587, Wuguoxinno1 (wuguoxinno1) wrote on 2011-11-23:

#39

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In KDE Bug Tracking System #187587, Bart-cerneels (bart-cerneels) wrote on 2011-11-25:

#40

Cue sheets found in the collection folders will be supported starting version 2.6

- Detect cue-sheets in collectionscanner, report them as regular playlist files.
- SqlScanResultProcessor handles cue sheets different from other playlists. Stores timecoded urls (partial playback) indatabase for each entry.
- Handled as regular tracks from now on.

Bug Watch Updater (bug-watch-updater) on 2011-11-25

Changed in amarok:
status:	Confirmed → In Progress

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In KDE Bug Tracking System #187587, RussianNeuroMancer (russianneuromancer) wrote on 2012-01-12:

#41

Will Amarok support embedded cue sheets in FLAC, WavPack, etc? https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=230272
Will Amarok preferred tags from cue for track releases with cue?

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In KDE Bug Tracking System #187587, Myriam Schweingruber (myriam) wrote on 2012-02-10:

#42

Setting status to NEW, else this doesn't show in the filters.

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In KDE Bug Tracking System #187587, Myriam Schweingruber (myriam) wrote on 2012-02-10:

#43

Actually it does, but was in the wrong component, sorry for the noise.

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In KDE Bug Tracking System #187587, Simon-44ecklpsr (simon-44ecklpsr) wrote on 2012-02-17:

#44

@bart: is there already a branch where this can be tested?

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In KDE Bug Tracking System #187587, Myriam Schweingruber (myriam) wrote on 2012-04-24:

#45

*** Bug 291775 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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In KDE Bug Tracking System #187587, Martin-vala (martin-vala) wrote on 2012-04-24:

#46

Any news on that? Can we test it?

Ciao

Martin

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In KDE Bug Tracking System #187587, Myriam Schweingruber (myriam) wrote on 2012-04-24:

#47

I don't think that there is anything to test yet, else Bart would have Cc'ed this report with a commit.

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In KDE Bug Tracking System #187587, Myriam Schweingruber (myriam) wrote on 2012-05-08:

#48

Sometimes real life gets in the way, so this is pushed to 2.7 as we are about to release 2.6 and Bart doesn't find enough time to work on it right now. Sorry about that.

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In KDE Bug Tracking System #187587, Myriam Schweingruber (myriam) wrote on 2012-05-08:

#49

*** Bug 279234 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Bug Watch Updater (bug-watch-updater) on 2012-08-15

Changed in amarok:
status:	In Progress → Confirmed

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In KDE Bug Tracking System #187587, Ralf Engels (ralf-engels) wrote on 2012-12-11:

#50

Bart,
I don't have that much knowledge about the cue sheet support. I guess it's not enough for the collectionscanner to just report a cue sheet as a normal song, is it?

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In KDE Bug Tracking System #187587, Bart-cerneels (bart-cerneels) wrote on 2012-12-12:

#51

(In reply to comment #43)
> Bart,
> I don't have that much knowledge about the cue sheet support. I guess it's
> not enough for the collectionscanner to just report a cue sheet as a normal
> song, is it?

The first step is reporting the .cue. The collection then has to create individual Tracks for each of the parts, with metadata read from the .cue. To make it all work those tracks need to be time-coded and it has to work automatically in EngineController. It might work with the BoundedPlaybackCapability, but I was thinking of just adding a query argument to the playableUrl that the Engine can interpret.

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In KDE Bug Tracking System #187587, RussianNeuroMancer (russianneuromancer) wrote on 2012-12-12:

#52

Also it's important to not treat files that already part of cue as separate tracks.

Bug Watch Updater (bug-watch-updater) on 2012-12-27

Changed in amarok:
status:	Confirmed → Unknown

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In KDE Bug Tracking System #187587, Lonestar-7 (lonestar-7) wrote on 2013-09-04:

#53

Hi,
are there any news on this? will it ever be supported?

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In KDE Bug Tracking System #187587, Mark Kretschmann (kretschmann) wrote on 2013-09-05:

#54

We have a Season of KDE student who is going to work on Cue Sheet support soon.

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In KDE Bug Tracking System #187587, Matthias Sweertvaegher (mx1up) wrote on 2013-09-05:

#55

great news!

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> We have a Season of KDE student who is going to work on Cue Sheet support soon.
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