Cannot get rid of it...

Bug #64160 reported by Henk Koster
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Affects Status Importance Assigned to Milestone
gnome-keyring-manager (Ubuntu)
Invalid
Wishlist
Ubuntu Desktop Bugs

Bug Description

Binary package hint: gnome-keyring-manager

Several programmes in Edgy (like Evolution) make use of gnome-keyring or gnome-keyring-manager. The use of a keyring is of limited benefit to home users, and should IMHO not be automatically forced upon them. In my case, I have tried to remove it, but find that Synaptic then also wants to remove a slew of other packages. This, friends, is NOT what choice is all about.

My suggestion: leave the use of keyrings as an installable option for those who want it (or need it), but do not make it part of the default install.

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Sebastien Bacher (seb128) wrote :

Thanks for your bug. gnome-keyring-manager is a standalone application you are free to uninstall it. The gnome-keyring is a piece of the GNOME infrastructure so it can't be removed if you use GNOME. No bug there, marking the request as rejected

Changed in gnome-keyring-manager:
assignee: nobody → desktop-bugs
importance: Undecided → Wishlist
status: Unconfirmed → Rejected
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Henk Koster (h-a-j-koster) wrote : Re: [Bug 64160] Re: Cannot get rid of it...

On Thu, 2006-10-05 at 11:30 +0000, Sebastien Bacher wrote:
> Thanks for your bug. gnome-keyring-manager is a standalone application
> you are free to uninstall it. The gnome-keyring is a piece of the GNOME
> infrastructure so it can't be removed if you use GNOME. No bug there,
> marking the request as rejected
>
> ** Changed in: gnome-keyring-manager (Ubuntu)
> Importance: Undecided => Wishlist
> Assignee: (unassigned) => Ubuntu Desktop Bugs
> Status: Unconfirmed => Rejected
>

Problem is: I just *hate* having to type a password everytime I start
Evolution, the more so since Evolution is pretty much forced on users
anyway. Please, please, give your users the *choice* of using a keyring
or not -- isn't that what Linux has always been about?

I have removed Evolution (and the various pop-accounts) from the keyring
in the gnome-keyring-manager, but *still* these keyring requests keep
coming up. Now, for the pop-accounts I was able to give "always"
permission, but this is no option for Evolution in the keyring-manager.

Signed: Linux-user since 1992 (Slackware, then Debian), currently
hesitating whether Ubuntu Edgy or Gentoo (64-bit) will be my main
production OS...

--
Henk Koster <email address hidden>

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Sebastien Bacher (seb128) wrote :

evolution-data-server has been rebuilt without gnome-keyring this morning (bug #63443)

removing the keyring is not possible though. nautilus, gnome-vfs, etc use it to store passwords and have no other way to store a password. Write duplicated code because some people don't like a keyring doesn't make sense. Some other people will not like the keyring nor the plain text format and will want another format, etc. Upstream already has enough of code without writing extra code and maintain because some people want to remove the gnome-keyring. Note that if entering your password is your only issue with the keyring there is a pam-keyring feature being work: cf bug #43169 by example

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Henk Koster (h-a-j-koster) wrote :

On Thu, 2006-10-05 at 20:43 +0000, Sebastien Bacher wrote:
> evolution-data-server has been rebuilt without gnome-keyring this
> morning (bug #63443)
>
> removing the keyring is not possible though. nautilus, gnome-vfs, etc
> use it to store passwords and have no other way to store a password.
> Write duplicated code because some people don't like a keyring doesn't
> make sense. Some other people will not like the keyring nor the plain
> text format and will want another format, etc. Upstream already has
> enough of code without writing extra code and maintain because some
> people want to remove the gnome-keyring. Note that if entering your
> password is your only issue with the keyring there is a pam-keyring
> feature being work: cf bug #43169 by example

OK, I understand that choices will have to be made, pros and cons etc.
At any rate, Evolution now works fine after the update. Thanks for
giving this matter your attention.

--
Henk Koster <email address hidden>

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