some services running but seen 'not running'

Bug #89580 reported by Paul Dufresne
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kde-guidance (Ubuntu)
Won't Fix
Undecided
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kde-systemsettings (Ubuntu)
Invalid
Undecided
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Bug Description

Binary package hint: kde-systemsettings

If I do:
ps -e | grep udevd
I see the process udevd running.

But when looking in System services, it's status
is 'not running'.

according to:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-users/2007-March/014401.html
it is happening with sendmail too.

At first I thought dbus-daemon was doing it too, but it is normal for this
one to have both a system-wide, and a per-user one daemon.

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Yuriy Kozlov (yuriy-kozlov) wrote :

Rejecting extra task.

Changed in kde-systemsettings:
status: Unconfirmed → Rejected
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Yuriy Kozlov (yuriy-kozlov) wrote :

See bug 77875, seems related.

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Paul Dufresne (paulduf) wrote :

I removed duplicate on bug #77875, because bug #77875 is about start at boot column, this one about udevd running state.
It could have the same cause, but it is not obvious without looking code.

Also note that I don't run KDE for many months (using GNOME now), so I am not well placed to indicate follow up on this.

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Paul Dufresne (paulduf) wrote :

Well, I was wondering if I should remake this bug a dup of bug #7785 because Ralph that did decide it was a duplicate, is more qualified than me. But I felt I was ok, so I decided to dig the code to see if I could find evidence that this is not the same bug.

I have found that serviceconfig.py in kde-guidance, have this:
    ########################################################################
    def fetchStatus(self):
        if self.getStatusFrom == "pidfile":
            self.fetchStatusFromPidFile()
        elif self.getStatusFrom == "top":
            # FIXME: not yet implemented
            self.fetchStatusFromTop()

    ########################################################################
    def fetchStatusFromTop(self):
        # FIXME, incomplete.
        top = os.popen("ps -aux")

    ########################################################################

which suggest that it intend to use 'ps -aux' (by the way I think it should be ps aux (witout the '-') I am sure at 80%) but
was not implemented yet. Indeed udevd have no .pid file in /var/run.

So I continue to think this is a different bug than bug #77875.
In fact this is not really a bug, just a not yet implemented feature.

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Borahshadow (codyregister) wrote :

I Think I can confirm. My problem is with acpi and hal not being known about. Really annoying and a hassle since it doesn't start the power manager sometimes or let me mount hard drives or other hardware from kde programs. Some times I when I reboot it works but sometimes not. This is on a laptop so the power manager is really a biggie along with the hal issue. I just try to keep my laptop suspended and hybernated once it works but sometimes I have to reboot and then it quits working.

Daniel T Chen (crimsun)
Changed in kde-guidance:
status: New → Confirmed
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Jonathan Thomas (echidnaman) wrote :

Kubuntu 8.04 has reached the end of its supported life, and unfortunately the Guidance user configuration tool and the Guidance Power Manager were the only Guidance apps to survive. The rest were removed from distribution and will not be receiving any more bugfixes. Thanks for understanding, and have a nice day.

Changed in kde-guidance (Ubuntu):
status: Confirmed → Invalid
status: Invalid → Won't Fix
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