Comment 46 for bug 108057

Well, I'm glad we finally agree that the whole issue is about the default layout in Ubuntu's graphical tool and that there are no "incorrect" characters in the xkeyboard-config file. Thank you for renaming and reassigning. I also think that the descriptive names in the graphical tool should be consistent with the ones in Vista and Secărică's layouts.

Mihai, you still have to realize that the "XP problem" is not something "easily" circumvented. Most XP users don't have either the know-how or the administrative rights to fix the display and input issues regarding commabelow diacritics. You need to be an administrator to install the MS hotfix and Secărică's layouts. I know plenty of knowledgeable people in corporate environments who don't have the necessary rights to do it. There is also the very common scenario in which the home user has the admin rights but has no idea how to fix the problem, which he/she thinks is not his/her problem. Cristi Secărică has also mentioned that you need to pass the MS genuine validation in order to install the hotfix, something that many Romanian XP installations will fail to do, given the very high piracy rate in our country. Also, in regards to ctomer's latest reply, "Romanian XP users who access content written by Romanian users of the very latest version of Ubuntu" may not be a "significant number of users" but they surely are a very significant *proportion* of the users that access that content.

Please consider the above when deciding what to set as default in Ubuntu. I know that the average clueless users are not nearly as vocal as the (not necessarily more knowledgeable) early adopters, but please take into consideration the technical facts which unfortunately translate into the sad reality of the currently very poor support for reading commabelow diacritics. I did my best to ease this for users of free software by extending the DejaVu font family of fonts with the necessary glyphs and by fully implementing the new keyboard standard in xkeyboard-config years ago, but I still think it's not the right time to change the defaults in the RO keyboard layout. Let's not share the pain of the early Romanian Vista adopters that are now seeking ways to write again with broken diacritics. I think Vista is doomed to replace XP as the dominant desktop/workstation OS in the not so distant future, so the whole issue will settle in time. It may well be that Ubuntu's no. 1 bug is taking over the world of computing but until then, please let's keep in touch with reality.