sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
export DISPLAY=:0
X $DISPLAY& thunderbird& kwin&
export DISPLAY=:1
X $DISPLAY& thunderbird& kwin&
export DISPLAY=:0
X $DISPLAY& thunderbird& compiz&
export DISPLAY=:1
X $DISPLAY& thunderbird& compiz&
All four scenarios: drag-and-drop works like a charm. There must be some
other process/config that is interfering (I'm guessing on the Gtk
level). I'm at a loss on how to proceed finding the culprit. Can I bore
you with a process list? I'll list the processess as running in the
last config shown above ( X $DISPLAY& thunderbird& compiz&) as compiz is
my default window manager, first:
Is there anything in the list that you don't have running? I could see
if I could launch that in isolation again to see whether it breaks
drag-and-drop. Right now the list is a bit too long, and many programs
probably non-trivail to launch manually :)
Cheers,
Seth
Seth wrote:
> Rimas,
>
> nope I just hovered about a full minute (I'm on the phone waiting :))
> nothing changed. Thanks for confirming that you have it working. Do you
> mind if I braindump anything special about my machine/config?
>
> Here goes
> - it is KDE 3.5.8
> - Linux sehe-desktop 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Tue Dec 18 08:02:57 UTC
> 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
> - Thunderbird version 2.0.0.6 (20071022)
>
> also.... (drumroll) I just remembered I have a potentially unusual X
> config, in that kdmrc contains (among others :))
>
> StaticServers=:0,:1
>
> This simply means, that I don't have to manually launch a second X
> terminal. I use both terminals on a single display, switching with
> Ctrl-Alt-F7/F8/F9 etc - no heroics on driver level.
>
> As it happens, :1 is "my" desktop (:0 being my wife's :)). Now it
> shouldn't, but it might influence the inner workings of drag and drop -
> being X-based IPC? I know, this is pure guesswork [of the most construed
> kind], but let me know if something resonates.
>
> Maybe you can see how comparable situations work on your Gutsy box? In
> the mean time, I'll compare running on :0 to :1, and perhaps running
> 'just' thunderbird as the sole client to a fresh X/Xnest/Xnvc.
>
> Hope to be back in touch,
> Regards,
> Seth
>
> Rimas Kudelis wrote:
>
>> Hm, it works as intended for me on Ubuntu 7.10.
>>
>> Seth, perhaps it's just delayed reaction? I get similar problems when
>> dragging music from Rhythmbox to my Desktop, for example. Sometimes you
>> just have to wait a few seconds longer for the cursor to change (that
>> indicates you can now move/copy the item).
>>
>> Note: my experience is with X.org, i've turned off both Xgl and desktop
>> effects. This could be important.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
Ok, followup:
i tested with
sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
export DISPLAY=:0
X $DISPLAY& thunderbird& kwin&
export DISPLAY=:1
X $DISPLAY& thunderbird& kwin&
export DISPLAY=:0
X $DISPLAY& thunderbird& compiz&
export DISPLAY=:1
X $DISPLAY& thunderbird& compiz&
All four scenarios: drag-and-drop works like a charm. There must be some
other process/config that is interfering (I'm guessing on the Gtk
level). I'm at a loss on how to proceed finding the culprit. Can I bore
you with a process list? I'll list the processess as running in the
last config shown above ( X $DISPLAY& thunderbird& compiz&) as compiz is
my default window manager, first:
==[ pstree -u sehe ]====== ======= ======= ======= =====
gconfd-2
bash---pstree
bash-+-Xorg(root) compiz- +-compiz. real
|-
| `-emerald
`-thunderbird- --run-mozilla. sh---thunderbir d-bin-- -9*[{thunderbir d-bin}]
======= ======= ======= ======= ======= ======= ===
Next: a dump of processess from my 'normal' (kdm) session:
==[ pstree -u sehe ]====== ======= ======= ======= =====
adept_notifier
artsd
dbus-daemon
dbus-launch
dcopserver
gconfd-2
kded
kdeinit─┬─alltray
├─katapult─ ──aspell
├─kblueplugd
├─kio_ system
├─knetworkmana ger───knetworkm anager
├─4*[konqueror ]
├─konsole─ ──bash─ ──pstree
└─smart- notifier
├─karm
├─kio_file
├─kio_media
├─kio_trash
├─klauncher
├─python
kdesktop─ ──sh─── compiz─ ┬─compiz. real
└─emerald
startkde─┬─kwrapper
└─ssh- agent
kicker
kio_uiserver
klipper
kmix
knotes
knotify
ksmserver
bash
thunderbird─ ──run-mozilla. sh───thunderbir d-bin── ─9*[{thunderbir d-bin}]
======= ======= ======= ======= ======= ======= ===
Is there anything in the list that you don't have running? I could see
if I could launch that in isolation again to see whether it breaks
drag-and-drop. Right now the list is a bit too long, and many programs
probably non-trivail to launch manually :)
Cheers,
Seth
Seth wrote:
> Rimas,
>
> nope I just hovered about a full minute (I'm on the phone waiting :))
> nothing changed. Thanks for confirming that you have it working. Do you
> mind if I braindump anything special about my machine/config?
>
> Here goes
> - it is KDE 3.5.8
> - Linux sehe-desktop 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Tue Dec 18 08:02:57 UTC
> 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
> - Thunderbird version 2.0.0.6 (20071022)
>
> also.... (drumroll) I just remembered I have a potentially unusual X
> config, in that kdmrc contains (among others :))
>
> StaticServers=:0,:1
>
> This simply means, that I don't have to manually launch a second X
> terminal. I use both terminals on a single display, switching with
> Ctrl-Alt-F7/F8/F9 etc - no heroics on driver level.
>
> As it happens, :1 is "my" desktop (:0 being my wife's :)). Now it
> shouldn't, but it might influence the inner workings of drag and drop -
> being X-based IPC? I know, this is pure guesswork [of the most construed
> kind], but let me know if something resonates.
>
> Maybe you can see how comparable situations work on your Gutsy box? In
> the mean time, I'll compare running on :0 to :1, and perhaps running
> 'just' thunderbird as the sole client to a fresh X/Xnest/Xnvc.
>
> Hope to be back in touch,
> Regards,
> Seth
>
> Rimas Kudelis wrote:
>
>> Hm, it works as intended for me on Ubuntu 7.10.
>>
>> Seth, perhaps it's just delayed reaction? I get similar problems when
>> dragging music from Rhythmbox to my Desktop, for example. Sometimes you
>> just have to wait a few seconds longer for the cursor to change (that
>> indicates you can now move/copy the item).
>>
>> Note: my experience is with X.org, i've turned off both Xgl and desktop
>> effects. This could be important.
>>
>>
>>
>
>