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fam package

fam and libgamin functionally conflict

Bug #10013 reported by Julien Olivier on 2004-11-09

Affects		Status	Importance	Assigned to	Milestone
	fam (Ubuntu)	Fix Released	High	Jeff Waugh

Bug Description

Since I replaced fam with gamin (running hoary), I'm experiencing some problems
with file alteration monitoring.

- After I empty the recent documents list, the file ~/.recently-used is empty,
but the list of files still appear in GNOME's main menu
- Files put in Nautilus' trash don't appear in the trash applet. And the "empty
trash" option is greyed out even if there are files in it.
- It takes about 4 seconds before files created or deleted in CLI are noticed
by Nautilus. But they *are* noticed, which shows that file monitoring actually
works.
- Maybe resulting from this, Nautilus is now *extremely* slow when opening folders.

Maybe the problems don't come from gamin, but form Nautilus, the trash applet or
gnomevfs2 though...

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Jeff Waugh (jdub) wrote on 2004-11-10:

Have you restarted your session since doing this, and ensured that all the user
daemons were not running? (Easy way of doing this is rebooting, but that always
sounds lame.) :-)

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Julien Olivier (julo) wrote on 2004-11-10:

Yes, I immediately rebooted after upgrading.

However, I've just noticed that I had the following packages installed:

-fam
-libgamin0

It seems I have only replaced libfam by libgamin. So I tried replacing "fam"
package by "gamin" package too.

After a new reboot, things seem to work perfectly now. Does it make sense ?

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Jeff Waugh (jdub) wrote on 2004-11-10:

Yeah, makes perfect sense. :-) I need to find a solution to the fam/libgamin
interaction that is not as scary as a Conflict (or the dpkg guys will eat me).
ubuntu-desktop depends on gamin, so this shouldn't be a problem with a normal
upgrade (perhaps it hadn't changed by the time you'd upgraded).

Thanks.

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Britt Selvitelle (britt) wrote on 2004-11-10:

(In reply to comment #3)
> Yeah, makes perfect sense. :-) I need to find a solution to the fam/libgamin
> interaction that is not as scary as a Conflict (or the dpkg guys will eat me).
> ubuntu-desktop depends on gamin, so this shouldn't be a problem with a normal
> upgrade (perhaps it hadn't changed by the time you'd upgraded).
>
> Thanks.

I can confirm that this happened when updating my notebook as well. apt-get
install gamin fixed the problem. I have also seen this several times on irc in
the last few days.

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Julien Olivier (julo) wrote on 2004-11-10:

When I said "things seem to work perfectly now", I was being a bit optimistic :)

After some hours of testing, it seems that, from time to time, and without any
obviou reason, the trash applet and the recent documents menu just stop
refreshing themselves. Then, a few minutes later, it works again...

I know I already used to have some problems with gamin when using Fedora Core,
so it might be the same problem
(https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=130859).

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Jeff Waugh (jdub) wrote on 2004-11-10:

Thanks - we're actually using a very recent version of gamin, too. I'll track
this, and keep bugging DV about it. :-)

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Sebastien Bacher (seb128) wrote on 2004-11-17:

*** Bug 10258 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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Jeff Waugh (jdub) wrote on 2004-11-29:

gamin 0.0.18-0ubuntu1 has been uploaded, so libgamin depends on gamin. There is
no conflict against fam yet, because I don't believe it is necessary (even
though it would be desireable to remove fam on upgrade). So this, at least,
solves the slowdown problem. :-)