Kubuntu 13.04 Splash Screen has Debian Branding

[14:16] <mparillo> New Debian KDE animated splash screen after login on 13.04? I like it.
[14:16] <apachelogger> mparillo: huh?
[14:55] <mparillo> After I login to Kubuntu 13.04 with today's updates, I now see a differnt KDE splash page, where the 4? icons come up one-by-one. Now there is a Debian curl in the background.
[15:07] <shadeslayer> 0.o
[15:09] <mparillo> shadeslayer: Surprised as in this slipped in by accident, or surprised that anybody noticed?
[15:09] <shadeslayer> surprised that its even different
[15:10] <shadeslayer> I don't think the splash stuff was touched
[15:10] <shadeslayer> though I might be wrong
[15:14] <mparillo> I doubt I did anything special. I grabbed one of the earliest 13.04 32-bit (VMWare player does not seem to like 64-bit) daily builds and have simply been letting muon apply updates ever since (for 12.04 there was a stretch where I had to do dist-upgrade, but so far not on 13.04). And then the KDE splash just changed. I do not recall adding any KDE apps (U1 is Qt with a bunch of Gnome dependencies, and passwordsafe uses
[15:14] <mparillo> xywidgets, I think), so I figure I must not be alone.
[15:15] <yofel_> ... kplash from debian indeed
[15:17] <yofel> mparillo: can you check in the splash settings if 'joy' is used?
[15:19] <mparillo> System Settings > Startup and Shutdown does not seem to have splash settings. Are they stored elsewhere?
[15:20] <yofel> workspace appearance
[15:21] <mparillo> joy it is
[15:21] <mparillo> I am pretty sue I did not change it manually.
[15:21] <yofel> yeah, that's the debian one, which is really nice but shouldn't be used by default...
[15:21] <mparillo> It used to be Default.
[15:23] <kubotu> mparillo meant: "Should I open a launchpad bug, or is this a new feature? As I said, I kinda like it, but maybe it would be even better if the Debian curl were replaced by a Kubuntu gear. Though I understand ScottK likes vanilla KDE, which leads us back to Default."
[15:23] <tsimpson> I doubt vanilla KDE uses the Debian logo ;)
[15:24] <yofel> a bug it is, just where...
[15:27] <yofel> (implementation wise the splash is workspace, user wise it's startup)
[15:31] <apachelogger> mparillo: is kubuntu-default-settings installed?
[15:32] <apachelogger> ohohoh
[15:32] <yofel> lol?
[15:32] <yofel> desktop-base: /usr/share/kde4/apps/ksplash/Themes/joy/Theme.rc
[15:32] <apachelogger> yofel: do we still package ksplash such that the wallpapers are linked to kde-default.png or whatever it is called?
[15:33] <yofel> why the hell is that in desktop-base o.O?
[15:33] <yofel> Description-en: common files for the Debian Desktop
[15:33] <apachelogger> yofel: it's a debian package
[15:33] <yofel> and why do I have that installed...
[15:33] <apachelogger> should not be installed by default though
[15:33] <apachelogger> only stuff like fluxbos will drag that in IIRC
[15:34] <apachelogger> mparillo: ls -l /usr/share/wallpapers/kde-default.png
[15:34] <yofel> lightdm-kde-greeter
[15:34] <yofel> Recommends: desktop-base
[15:34] <apachelogger> oh lol
[15:34] <apachelogger> time to flame upstream :P
[15:35] <mparillo> I do not see kubuntu-default-settings in my list of installed Software > Provided by Kubuntu
[15:36] <apachelogger> mparillo: dpkg-query -l kubuntu-default-settings
[15:36] <mparillo> /usr/share/wallpapers/kde-default.png -> Ariya/contents/images/1920x1200.png
[15:37] <apachelogger> mparillo: also .... ls -l /usr/share/kde4/apps/ksplash/Themes
[15:37] <mparillo> /usr/share/wallpapers/kde-default.png -> Ariya/contents/images/1920x1200.png
[15:37] <apachelogger> yofel: question is ... even with desktop-base installed how does it become default?
[15:37] <mparillo> Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
[15:37] <mparillo> | Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
[15:37] <mparillo> |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
[15:37] <mparillo> ||/ Name Version Architecture Description
[15:37] <mparillo> +++-==============-============-============-=================================
[15:37] <mparillo> ii kubuntu-defaul 1:12.10ubunt all Default settings and artwork for
[15:37] <yofel> no idea, it didn't get set as default here
[15:38] <mparillo> I might make the bot angry, but:
[15:38] <mparillo> total 32
[15:38] <mparillo> drwxr-xr-x 9 root root 4096 Nov 10 00:28 Default
[15:38] <mparillo> drwxr-xr-x 9 root root 4096 Nov 16 13:55 Horos
[15:38] <mparillo> drwxr-xr-x 9 root root 4096 Nov 16 13:52 joy
[15:38] <mparillo> drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Nov 10 00:27 Kubuntu
[15:39] <mparillo> drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Nov 16 13:55 Minimalistic
[15:39] <mparillo> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Nov 16 13:55 None
[15:39] <mparillo> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Nov 16 13:55 Simple
[15:39] <mparillo> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Nov 16 13:55 SimpleSmall
[15:39] <apachelogger> mparillo: next time please use paste.kde.org ;)
[15:39] <yofel> we have no floodbot here ^^
[15:39] <apachelogger> yofel: I consider that a feature
[15:39] <yofel> ack
[15:39] <apachelogger> usr/share/desktop-base/profiles/kde-profile/share/config/ksplashrc
[15:40] * apachelogger has no clue how that would get picked up -.-
[15:40] <apachelogger> desktop-base is a confusing package :P
[15:40] <apachelogger> kubuntu-settings ftw
[15:41] <yofel> the fun part is the kde3 and gdm3 part in postinst
[15:41] <apachelogger> lulz
[15:42] <mparillo> [KSplash]
[15:42] <mparillo> Theme=joy
[15:43] <apachelogger> the spaecfun wallpaper actually looks rather nice with the ksplash box thing ^^
[15:44] <apachelogger> mparillo: ~/.kde/share/config/ksplashrc
[15:44] <apachelogger> /etc/kde4rc
[15:45] <apachelogger> echo $KDEDIRS
[15:45] <apachelogger> oho
[15:45] <apachelogger> yofel: >>> cat /usr/share/kde4/config/kdeglobals
[15:45] <apachelogger> [Directories]
[15:45] <apachelogger> dir_config=/usr/share/desktop-base/profiles/kde-profile/share/config/
[15:45] <mparillo> ~/.kde/share/config/ksplashrc
[15:46] <apachelogger> that's on 12.04 though
[15:46] <mparillo> cat: /home/mparillo/.kde/share/config/ksplashrc: No such file or directory
[15:46] <yofel> $ cat /usr/share/kde4/config/kdeglobals
[15:46] <yofel> [Directories]
[15:46] <yofel> dir_config=/usr/share/desktop-base/profiles/kde-profile/share/config/
[15:46] <yofel> 13.04
[15:46] <apachelogger> that's how it gets picked up
[15:46] <yofel> fun
[15:46] <apachelogger> mparillo: thanks found it
[15:46] <apachelogger> so
[15:47] <apachelogger> other than lightdm-kde needing a fix....
[15:47] <yofel> removing the recommends should be enough?
[15:47] <mparillo> Is it a bug? Upstream?
[15:47] <apachelogger> yofel: actually I think talking to upstream is in order
[15:47] <yofel> though an alternate depend would be better
[15:47] <apachelogger> kdm did not have a relationship with desktop-base I think
[15:48] <yofel> yeah
[15:48] <apachelogger> so why should lightdm
[15:48] <apachelogger> on a related note ... we could make kubuntu-settings conflict desktop-base
[15:48] <apachelogger> that would make it pretty obvious should it happen again in the future
[15:49] <yofel> someone might want to actually use that
[15:49] <apachelogger> I know
[15:49] <apachelogger> not having to investigate shit > making 3 people out of 7 billion happy :P
[15:49] <apachelogger> just a thought though
[15:50] <apachelogger> alternatively we could force defaults in kubuntu-settings
[15:50] <apachelogger> i.e. our ksplashrc would be theme=Default
[15:50] <apachelogger> so kubuntu settings always take preference, that of course relies on completeness and at the same time would make it harder to investigate as partial brand leaking would occur
[15:51] <apachelogger> ScottK: what happens if we blacklist a package in the seed and it would get pulled in through a dep?
[15:52] <ScottK> It gets pulled in.
[15:52] <ScottK> (on install)
[15:52] <ScottK> That or it wouldn't be installable on the livefs build and the build would fail.
[15:53] <ScottK> (it being the thing that depended on it)
[15:53] <ScottK> So either way, no good.
[15:54] <apachelogger> that or there is not helpful ^^