update-manager (and other system wide settings tools) appear in Preferences menu instead of a System Administration menu

This is not an issue in update-manager at all. The issue is in the lxmenu-data package.

Specifically, the package includes an Administration menu directory file

  lxde-settings-system.directory

However the /etc/xdg/menus/lxde-application.menu files does not use it.

As a result, many applications that are in Categories System and Settings (that is, applications which change system wide settings, and are therefore System Administration tools) are incorrectly located in the Preferences submenu in LXDE.

Preferences is for per-user preferences, not system wide tools such as "Users and Groups" (only in a rather weak sense can adding a new user to a machine be considered a "preference"!).

One way to correct this is to edit the /etc/xdg/menus/lxde-application.menu file so that it subdivides the System menu into two, "Administration" and "System Tools", and then places all applications with both System and Settings categories into the Administration menu.

The attached /etc/xdg/menus/lxde-application.menu file does exactly this.

Here is an even more corrected lxde-applications.menu file :)

This one is valid XML as validated by xmllint, which the previous one was not.

Per Julien's request, here are a couple of screenshots showing the menu before and after this changed menu file is used.

Here is the screenshot with the menu file in place.

Dear Jonathan

thank you very much. I have changed the file and I am
perfectly satisfied. I hope this will become the default
for the distribution?
May I add that in System -> System Tools there are two
Task Managers (one is lxtask and one is xfce4-taskmanager):
maybe the entries' names should be different.

Thank you again for your invaluable work.

Greetings,

Remo Badii
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Remo:

Thanks for the positive feedback!

I'm setting this bug to confirmed, since several people, myself included, have confirmed it already.

Yes, we're looking at getting this change, or something very similar to it, officially into Lubuntu.

Normally I don't think xfce4-taskmanager is part of Lubuntu, so that seems like an unusual issue that is not directly related to this bug.

Thanks Jonathan for your work on it. I merged it into my current work on the menu. I attached the result, let me know what do you think of it.

This bug was fixed in the package lubuntu-default-settings - 0.17

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lubuntu-default-settings (0.17) natty; urgency=low

  [ Julien Lavergne ]
  * etc/xdg/lubuntu/menus/lxde-applications.menu:
   - Add a specific menu structure for lubuntu session.
  * etc/xdg/lubuntu/lxdm/lxdm.conf
   - Remove background option, it's already defined by the theme, and can break
     it sometimes (LP: #703658).

  [ Jonathan Marsden ]
  * etc/xdg/lubuntu/menus/lxde-applications.menu:
   - Update DTD to use standards.freedesktop.org
   - Move system-wide admin tools to System -> Administration menu
     (LP: #650432)
 -- Julien Lavergne <email address hidden> Mon, 21 Feb 2011 01:51:14 +0100