IBM ScrollPoint mouse scrolls vertically VERY fast and has no horizontal scrolling

Probably needs to be fixed in the kernel.
Please provide the minimal information as requested here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeamBugPolicies.

Can you try if a gutsy live cd still has the same problem.

Please also attach your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
To make horizontal scrolling work, did you try to replace ZAxisMapping "4 5" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf by ZAxisMapping "4 5 6 7"?

Hello,

First, kernel:

fabio@morpheus:~$ uname -a
Linux morpheus 2.6.20-16-generic #2 SMP Thu Jun 7 20:19:32 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
fabio@morpheus:~$ cat /proc/version_signature
Ubuntu 2.6.20-16.29-generic
fabio@morpheus:~$ dmesg | tail -n 8
[353432.928000] usb 1-1: new low speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 3
[353433.128000] usb 1-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[353433.128000] APIC error on CPU0: 40(40)
[353433.852000] usbcore: registered new interface driver hiddev
[353433.860000] input: HID 04b3:3108 as /class/input/input8
[353433.860000] input: USB HID v1.00 Mouse [HID 04b3:3108] on usb-0000:00:13.0-1
[353433.860000] usbcore: registered new interface driver usbhid
[353433.860000] drivers/usb/input/hid-core.c: v2.6:USB HID core driver

Second, relevant Xorg Configuration lines:

Section "InputDevice"
        Identifier "HID 04b3:3108"
        Driver "evdev"
        Option "SendCoreEvents" "true"
        Option "Name" "HID 04b3:3108"
EndSection

and relevant log lines, after hot plugging the device:

(II) evdev brain: Rescanning devices (4).
(**) Option "SendCoreEvents" "true"
(**) HID 04b3:3108-usb-0000:00:13.0-1/input0: always reports core events
(II) HID 04b3:3108-usb-0000:00:13.0-1/input0: Found 4 relative axes.
(II) HID 04b3:3108-usb-0000:00:13.0-1/input0: Configuring as pointer.
(**) HID 04b3:3108-usb-0000:00:13.0-1/input0: ZRelativeAxisButtons: 4 5.
(**) HID 04b3:3108-usb-0000:00:13.0-1/input0: WHEELRelativeAxisButtons: 4 5.
(II) HID 04b3:3108-usb-0000:00:13.0-1/input0: Found 3 mouse buttons
(**) HID 04b3:3108-usb-0000:00:13.0-1/input0: Configuring 4 relative axes.
(II) HID 04b3:3108-usb-0000:00:13.0-1/input0: Configured 5 mouse buttons
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "HID 04b3:3108-usb-0000:00:13.0-1/inpu
t0" (type: MOUSE)
(**) HID 04b3:3108-usb-0000:00:13.0-1/input0: 4 valuators.
(**) ../../src/evdev_btn.c (166): Registering 5 buttons.
(II) HID 04b3:3108-usb-0000:00:13.0-1/input0: Init
(II) HID 04b3:3108-usb-0000:00:13.0-1/input0: On

Please note that I tried all sort of combinations listed on evdev(4) to make horizontal scroll work (as I did for my Microsoft Comfort Optical Mouse 3000 and worked perfectly after figuring out the mapping). Even brute force method to remap buttons... I said above about 17 buttons because in some weird configuration, it got those ghost buttons... I guess it was with the mouse driver, not evdev (I tried both).

And finally, I tested it on the latest 7.10 version and it still does not work. Also, when I press the vertical scrolling a little harder, it suddenly stops working. I remember finding (google) some other users claiming of the same thing. This behavior is not seen at Feisty with the above configuration. The live CD seems to let a generic mouse driver configuration only.

AFAIK, it should be fixed at kernel level, I can not see why this bug is attached to xorg.

Thank you.

This bug is still missing a complete dmesg and the output of lspci -vvnn as described in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeamBugPolicies.

Sorry, I could not see the relevance, as I understand. This should be a
mouse driver issue right? I tried on different machines with exactly the
same results. Even in different Linux distributions.

What I sent before, was at my desktop computer, attached are things at my
Ubuntu 7.04 Compaq notebook.

I included also, the full xorg.conf file, /var/log/dmesg because I get A LOT
of APIC errors, which hides boot time dmesg data (and makes absolutely
nothing noticeable other than flooding logs...).

Hope I am not missing anything this time. I just tried to help sending only
"relevant information" on my last email, sorry about that.

On 8/16/07, Pascal De Vuyst <email address hidden> wrote:
>
> This bug is still missing a complete dmesg and the output of lspci -vvnn
> as described in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeamBugPolicies.
>
> --
> IBM ScrollPoint mouse scrolls vertically VERY fast and has no horizontal
> scrolling
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/126897
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> of the bug.
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Your information did not get attached to the bug report.
Please note that e-mail attachments don't work, you have to go to the launchpad link and click "Add a comment/attachment".

Wow!! This is a very weird behavior of launchpad... I can send the email but it strips the attachments... with no warning for me.

It is here now.

Please test against gutsy-rc when it's out. We've introduced a GUI config tool for synaptics which I suspect may adequately address this problem. Please let us know what you think.

I am sorry Bryce, but this IBM mouse in question does not use the synaptics
device drivers. This will not be much of help...

On 10/5/07, Bryce Harrington <email address hidden> wrote:
>
> Please test against gutsy-rc when it's out. We've introduced a GUI
> config tool for synaptics which I suspect may adequately address this
> problem. Please let us know what you think.
>
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> IBM ScrollPoint mouse scrolls vertically VERY fast and has no horizontal
> scrolling
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/126897
> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> of the bug.
>

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This bug is still present in gutsy

Beginning with the Hardy Heron 8.04 development cycle, all open Ubuntu kernel bugs need to be reported against the "linux" kernel package. We are automatically migrating this bug to the new "linux" package. However, development has already began for the upcoming Intrepid Ibex 8.10 release. It would be helpful if you could test the upcoming release and verify if this is still an issue - http://www.ubuntu.com/testing . If the issue still exists, please update this report by changing the Status of the "linux" task from "Incomplete" to "New". We appreciate your patience and understanding as we make this transition. Thanks!

The Ubuntu Kernel Team is planning to move to the 2.6.27 kernel for the upcoming Intrepid Ibex 8.10 release. As a result, the kernel team would appreciate it if you could please test this newer 2.6.27 Ubuntu kernel. There are one of two ways you should be able to test:

1) If you are comfortable installing packages on your own, the linux-image-2.6.27-* package is currently available for you to install and test.

--or--

2) The upcoming Alpha5 for Intrepid Ibex 8.10 will contain this newer 2.6.27 Ubuntu kernel. Alpha5 is set to be released Thursday Sept 4. Please watch http://www.ubuntu.com/testing for Alpha5 to be announced. You should then be able to test via a LiveCD.

Please let us know immediately if this newer 2.6.27 kernel resolves the bug reported here or if the issue remains. More importantly, please open a new bug report for each new bug/regression introduced by the 2.6.27 kernel and tag the bug report with 'linux-2.6.27'. Also, please specifically note if the issue does or does not appear in the 2.6.26 kernel. Thanks again, we really appreicate your help and feedback.

Hi, I also own this mouse and have experienced this behavior with the scroll point since I first discovered Ubuntu Feisty. I am now running the 2.6.27 kernel on Intrepid and it is still exactly the same. I have attached my lspci -vvnn.log, if there is anything else I can do to help you fix this bug please let me know. Thanks.

Per a decision made by the Ubuntu Kernel Team, bugs will longer be assigned to the ubuntu-kernel-team in Launchpad as part of the bug triage process. The ubuntu-kernel-team is being unassigned from this bug report. Refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeamBugPolicies for more information. Thanks.

I could not find any info under https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeamBugPolicies. I have the same problem with the same mouse (IBM 31P7405). This is my favorite mouse under Windows, but with Ubuntu the erratic scrolling is rather boring. I don't understand Ubuntu enough to be technical, I just want it to work.

1) Is there a fix?
2) Will there be a fix?
3) Do I just shut up and put up?
4) Will I have to swap my mouse when I swap OS's on my dual boot system forever?

Thanks.

1. Code a driver patch.
2. Buy a new mouse.
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On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 05:36, paul eastham <email address hidden> wrote:

> I could not find any info under
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeamBugPolicies. I have the same problem
> with the same mouse (IBM 31P7405). This is my favorite mouse under
> Windows, but with Ubuntu the erratic scrolling is rather boring. I don't
> understand Ubuntu enough to be technical, I just want it to work.
>
> 1) Is there a fix?
> 2) Will there be a fix?
> 3) Do I just shut up and put up?
> 4) Will I have to swap my mouse when I swap OS's on my dual boot system
> forever?
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> IBM ScrollPoint mouse scrolls vertically VERY fast and has no horizontal
> scrolling
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/126897
> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> of the bug.
>

I like this mouse and I dual boot with windows.
No intention to support it?
Thanks,

I gave up in the end and have moved to a TOSHIBA PA3705D media keyboard with
integrated mouse pad. Despite other reviews hating it, I am very pleased
with it as it works great in both ubuntu 9.10 & XP. Not as good as the
scroll point for precision stuff but great.

regards

Paul
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Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 10:02 AM
Subject: [Bug 126897] Re: IBM ScrollPoint mouse scrolls vertically VERY
fastand has no horizontal scrolling

I like this mouse and I dual boot with windows.
No intention to support it?
Thanks,

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IBM ScrollPoint mouse scrolls vertically VERY fast and has no horizontal
scrolling
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/126897
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Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu: Incomplete
Status in “linux-source-2.6.20” package in Ubuntu: Won't Fix
Status in “xserver-xorg-input-mouse” package in Ubuntu: Triaged

Bug description:
Binary package hint: xserver-xorg-input-mouse

Hello,

I've just bought this mouse:

http://www5.pc.ibm.com/th/products.nsf/$wwwpartnumlookup/_31P7405?OpenDocument&sourcesite=lenovo

And found out that scrolling is highly unusable under Linux. The vertical
scrolling is VERY sensitive, a single soft touch at the scrolling button
generates dozens of scrolling events, as opposed to Lenovo' s official
Windows driver. Windows also have this problem when running with Windows
factory drivers. It seems that Lenovo' s driver does some "software level
event filtering" to let it work properly. I found an old thread at LKML:

http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0410.3/0799.html

Where this issue already appears. All points to the need of a specific
workarround for this mouse model.

Also, the horizontal scroll can not be configured in any way. I tried
remapping all (17 i guess) detected mouse buttons to horizontal scrolling
and nothing. I had success making my Synaptics touchpad work fine, but this
mouse has no way to make horizontal scrolling work.

Here is lsusb output:

$ lsusb
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
Bus 001 Device 003: ID 04b3:3108 IBM Corp. 800dpi Optical Mouse w/ Scroll
Point
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000

Hope this get fixed, or I've just lost some money buying this mouse...

Thank you.

ProblemType: Bug
Architecture: i386
Date: Wed Jul 18 21:41:00 2007
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 7.04
Package: xserver-xorg-input-mouse 1:1.2.1-0ubuntu1
PackageArchitecture: i386
SourcePackage: xserver-xorg-input-mouse
Uname: Linux morpheus 2.6.20-16-generic #2 SMP Thu Jun 7 20:19:32 UTC 2007
i686 GNU/Linux

I also am a Linux user who owns 2 IBM Scrollpoint mice and absolutely love them. I get best results with the "ExplorerPS/2" protocol in Xorg. The vertical scroll works a bit sensitive, but I perceive 3 "speed" levels based on how hard you press the stick, but I have NEVER had horizontal scrolling working! Yes I've tried all the axismapping "4 5 6 7" combinations, which will get "xev" to report sporatic "button 6" and "button 7" presses when you mash the stick left or right just right with a lot of force, but it appears that a separate protocol driver should be written based on the "ExplorerPS/2" protocol to adjust the timings and sensitivity of the stick to sort and smooth out the 4 different directions and sensitivities. If I knew anything about kernel driver programming, I'd write one myself. I'd be willing to coinsider sending someone one of these mice if they'd write a good driver for it! The pbm is definitely an enhancement for the kernel mouse drivers (new protocol) and is not a bug in either X or the kernel nor confined to any specific versions.

we've used the -evdev driver for a few years now, which is listening to the events from the kernel devices, so in this case the misfunctioning should be able to be quirked in the kernel.

This bug was filed against a series that is no longer supported and so is being marked as Won't Fix. If this issue still exists in a supported series, please file a new bug.

This change has been made by an automated script, maintained by the Ubuntu Kernel Team.

Anyone still interested in this bug, please see my Fedora bug:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=754674

New kernels/Xorg now have an X deadlock bug (X seems to hang). Please contribute there and maybe we can get all these ScrollPoint Mouse problems solved.

A note to interested parties, this bug (scrollwheel too fast) has been fixed upstream (see https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48118) and should be coming to the distros somewhere down the road. To partake of the fix, you have to add some lines to either your xorg.conf (if you have one) or a new file. The new file would look like:

#cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/99-scrollpoint.conf
Section "InputClass"
  Identifier "ScrollPoint"
  MatchUSBID "04b3:3100|04b3:3103|04b3:3105|04b3:3108|04b3:3109"
  Option "VertScrollDelta" "18"
  Option "HorizScrollDelta" "18"
EndSection

Perhaps someone with access to the metadata of this bug can update it appropriately to reflect this change in status.

Thanks!