setup sets PC keyboard layout on macs

Colin, Martin, James, Thom, is this a sensible thing to be doing by default?

Yannick,

since you already have the "lv3:lwin_switch" option, you can use the Apple key
as AltGr, i. e. Apple+8 == '[', Apple+<= '|'. Since I'm typing at both a PC and
an iBook, I'm used to the pc105 layout and never changed it. In fact, on the
iBook, the AltGr characters ({} [] | \ etc.) are not even printed on the
keyboard, so I really don't know where these keys are supposed to be on a
macintosh layout.

(All this applies to a German layout, btw.)

Martin,

as I said (perhaps not clearly), it crucially depends on whether you're used to PC or Mac keymap. Anyone coming from MacOS(X) will
have (some) difficulties with the PC keymap and anyone coming from a PC (be it Windows or Linux) will have (considerable)
difficulties with the Mac keymap.

After long years of MacOSX and YellowDog (they use the mac keymap), my fingers use mac layout when they feel a mac keyboard even
though I have normally no difficulties at all in using a PC keyboard. On the other hand, anyone who needs curly braces and has
keyboard-sensitive fingers should be able to fix it himself (at least with the snippet above), so if you think it's not worth the
hassle, feel free to close the bug.

This problem could be the same as
https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5989 . We need a new symbol mac for
the new input layer.

Since our installer asks for the keyboard type anyway, and even allows you to
determine the keyboard by typing some characters, it would be very nice if the
result from there could be promoted to xorg.conf, i. e. whether to use the Mac
or PC layout.

what's in debian-installer/keymap for macintosh layouts, and how's it different
to pc?

*** Bug 22878 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Just re-assigning the bug to xkeyboard-config.

- Henrik

The keyboard configuration is done by xserver-xorg, not xkeyboard-config, so reassigning.

I have the same bug on my iBook G4 1.07 GHz. Yet, it happens when I boot.

It's painful, I use to click on System -> Preferences -> Keyboard -> Agencement or layout (second tab), to choose an other layout and to click on the "reinitialize" button. I'm alright till next boot...

I feel angry, because the window say that I'm using a "macintosh" layout and it's a PC one...

Do you have the same problem at gdm ? if not, then the problem is due to gnome-settings not xorg.

S*l*p* :P

GDM works great.

Gnome make me use a pc105 keymap, and what's next is as I told before...

But the new keymap for fr mac keyboard is impressive !
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ŸáÉ”’[å»ÛÁØ]–ÆÅʤ™ŸªïŒΠÔ¥ΩΣΔ·ÎÍË|Ó‰#≥¢√∫~¿·\±

Thanks, Étienne Bersac, so-called Poupette ;-P

Hello,

> GDM works great.
>
> Gnome make me use a pc105 keymap, and what's next is as I told
> before...

Ok, so please report a new bug for gnome-keyboard-properties or such
GNOME software that handle those preferences. (maybe gnome-settings-
daemon).

> But the new keymap for fr mac keyboard is impressive !
> ·ë“‘{¶«¡Çø}—æÂꮆںîœπô
> €‡ÒδÌÏȬµÙ@≤©♦ß…÷≠
> ŸáÉ”’[å»ÛÁØ]–ÆÅʤ™ŸªïŒΠÔ¥ΩΣΔ·ÎÍË|
> Ó‰#≥¢√∫~¿·\±

:D If you want this by default in ubuntu, ask it at https://
launchpad.net/bugs/36492 .

Étienne.

My brother does not endure this bug on an iMac G5. Hence I decided to reinstall.

It's solved...

I posted a message to approve your keymap on #36 492…

Can you test this on Edgy RC so we can see if this problems still exists?

Still the same.

same problem here, only the xorg.conf provided in the original comment does not work after the login screen with KDE/Kubuntu 7.0.4
I had to use KDE's "regional settings" to correct this:
To reflect the settings in xorg.conf, I chose:
* tab keyboard layout: (in my case German) model/type: Apple, variant mac
the command line now reads:
"setxkbmap -model apple -layout de -variant mac"

This brings back accents and braces at the usual mac-like positions/keys.
To reproduce the "XkbOption lv3:lwin_switch"-line, go to tab "Xkb-Options", check "Xkb-Options" and then "selection on 3rd level" (rough translation from my German interface), set to "press left windows key...".
The command line at the bottom now reads:
"setxkbmap -option lv3:lwin_switch"

To use left Apple-key as command key (instead of Ctrl), you have to use KDE's "keyboard&mouse"-settings, switch to tab "special keys" and select "macintosh keyboard" and "special keys like in MacOS".

In an open Konqueror, these settings are not applied immediately, but in other apps it works perfectly now.

Is this a dupe of 160171?

Well, I think this is long since fixed. See:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16641