webcam Logitech QuickCam Messenger ID 046d:08f0 / 046d:08f5 / 046d:08f6 is not recognized

Bug #209901 reported by Serge Maneuf
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This bug affects 6 people
Affects Status Importance Assigned to Milestone
linux (Ubuntu)
Confirmed
Medium
Colin Ian King

Bug Description

The driver quickcam provided with Feisty &Hardy doesn't works for webcam logitech ID 046d:08f6 ( webcam is detected as a sound card ).
The driver qc-usb-messenger-1.7 worked under Feisty .... but I'm not knowledgeable enough to compile it under the new kernel.

Tags: cft-2.6.27
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--sebi-- (sebastiandukic) wrote :

same Problem here. Icant get the Camera work. With feisty of worked perfectly, but since i upgraded to gusty, the Cam doesnt work. Would be nice to See the Cam working out of the Box with hardy.

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Leann Ogasawara (leannogasawara) wrote :

Hi Guys,

Can one of you attach the output of 'lsusb' just to verify the correct vendor and device id that needs to be added to the driver. Thanks.

Changed in linux:
status: New → Incomplete
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Serge Maneuf (lsmaneuf-orange) wrote :

Here it is : Bus 001 Device 004: ID 046d:08f6 Logitech, Inc.

Changed in linux:
assignee: nobody → ubuntu-kernel-team
importance: Undecided → Medium
status: Incomplete → Triaged
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Leann Ogasawara (leannogasawara) wrote :

The Ubuntu Kernel Team is planning to move to the 2.6.27 kernel for the upcoming Intrepid Ibex 8.10 release. As a result, the kernel team would appreciate it if you could please test this newer 2.6.27 Ubuntu kernel. There are one of two ways you should be able to test:

1) If you are comfortable installing packages on your own, the linux-image-2.6.27-* package is currently available for you to install and test.

--or--

2) The upcoming Alpha5 for Intrepid Ibex 8.10 will contain this newer 2.6.27 Ubuntu kernel. Alpha5 is set to be released Thursday Sept 4. Please watch http://www.ubuntu.com/testing for Alpha5 to be announced. You should then be able to test via a LiveCD.

Please let us know immediately if this newer 2.6.27 kernel resolves the bug reported here or if the issue remains. More importantly, please open a new bug report for each new bug/regression introduced by the 2.6.27 kernel and tag the bug report with 'linux-2.6.27'. Also, please specifically note if the issue does or does not appear in the 2.6.26 kernel. Thanks again, we really appreicate your help and feedback.

Changed in linux:
assignee: ubuntu-kernel-team → colin-king
status: Triaged → Fix Committed
status: Fix Committed → In Progress
Changed in linux:
milestone: none → intrepid-alpha-6
status: In Progress → Fix Committed
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Peter Meiser (meiser79) wrote : Re: webcam Logitech QuickCam Messenger ID 046d:08f6 is not reconized

Hi,

this webcam won't work with qc-usb. There's a special driver for it (http://home.mag.cx/messenger). But there's also an in-kernel driver called quickcam_messenger.

Best regards,
Whoopie

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mb (maxbloemer) wrote :

Hi, I tested it with 8.10 alpha 5 and my Logitech QuickCam Web didn't work.

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Launchpad Janitor (janitor) wrote :
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This bug was fixed in the package linux - 2.6.27-3.4

---------------
linux (2.6.27-3.4) intrepid; urgency=low

  [ Colin Ian King ]

  * SAUCE: fix kernel oops in VirtualBox during paravirt patching
    - LP: #246067
  * SAUCE: qc-usb: Enable Logitech QuickCam Messenger
    - LP: #209901
  * SAUCE: appleir: Enable driver for new MacBook Pro
    - LP: #157919

  [ Tim Gardner ]

  * Enabled CONFIG_DEBUG_RODATA=y

  [ Upstream Kernel Changes ]

  * Revert "ALSA: hda - Added model selection for iMac 24""
  * Revert "x86: fix HPET regression in 2.6.26 versus 2.6.25, check hpet
    against BAR, v3"
  * Revert "[ARM] use the new byteorder headers"
  * Revert "mac80211: Use IWEVASSOCREQIE instead of IWEVCUSTOM"
  * Revert "crypto: camellia - Use kernel-provided bitops, unaligned access
    helpers"
  * svcrdma: Fix race between svc_rdma_recvfrom thread and the dto_tasklet
  * sched, cpuset: rework sched domains and CPU hotplug handling (v4)
  * ACPI: Fix now signed module parameter.
  * ACPI: Change package length error to warning
  * ACPI: Fix now signed module parameter.
  * ACPI: Fix typo in "Disable MWAIT via DMI on broken Compal board"
  * acpi: add checking for NULL early param
  * UBIFS: fix zero-length truncations
  * Input: bcm5974 - add maintainer entry
  * sh64: re-add the __strnlen_user() prototype
  * sh: fix ptrace_64.c:user_disable_single_step()
  * PNPACPI: ignore the producer/consumer bit for extended IRQ descriptors
  * UBIFS: always read hashed-key nodes under TNC mutex
  * UBIFS: allow for racing between GC and TNC
  * [CIFS] Fix plaintext authentication
  * sparc32: Implement smp_call_function_single().
  * sh: crash kernel resource fix
  * sh: fix kexec entry point for crash kernels
  * sh: fix platform_resource_setup_memory() section mismatch
  * sh: update Migo-R defconfig
  * sh: update AP325RXA defconfig
  * sh: fix semtimedop syscall
  * cifs: fix O_APPEND on directio mounts
  * [CIFS] update cifs change log
  * [CIFS] Turn off Unicode during session establishment for plaintext
    authentication
  * ACPI: thinkpad-acpi: wan radio control is not experimental
  * sparc: Fix resource flags for PCI children in OF device tree.
  * remove blk_register_filter and blk_unregister_filter in gendisk
  * ALSA: oxygen: fix distorted output on AK4396-based cards
  * ipv6: When we droped a packet, we should return NET_RX_DROP instead of
    0
  * pkt_sched: Fix locking of qdisc_root with qdisc_root_sleeping_lock()
  * net: Unbreak userspace usage of linux/mroute.h
  * Don't trigger softlockup detector on network fs blocked tasks
  * Resource handling: add 'insert_resource_expand_to_fit()' function
  * sparc64: setup_valid_addr_bitmap_from_pavail() should be __init
  * UBIFS: do not update min_idx_lebs in stafs
  * UBIFS: push empty flash hack down
  * UBIFS: remove incorrect index space check
  * UBIFS: improve statfs reporting
  * UBIFS: fix assertion
  * UBIFS: add forgotten gc_idx_lebs component
  * UBIFS: introduce LEB overhead
  * UBIFS: improve statfs reporting even more
  * UBIFS: fill f_fsid
  * drm/radeon: downgrade debug message from info to debug.
  * Remove invalidate_partition call from do_md_stop.
  * Fix problem with wai...

Changed in linux:
status: Fix Committed → Fix Released
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Derek7 (enrico-vittorini) wrote :

Ubuntu intrepid: the device /dev/video0 not created. The webcam doesn't.

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Derek7 (enrico-vittorini) wrote :

Intrepid beta: DO NOOOOOT WORK!!!

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Johannes R. (ringe-efreun) wrote :

Confirmed here with Quickcam Messenger Plus.
It's recognized, but no /dev/video* is created.

Tested with intrepid beta (uname -r: 2.6.27-7-generic)

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loonatic (albert-friendly) wrote :

2.6.27-13 hasn't fixed it either.

It does work with 2.6.26.7 and the qc-usb-messenger driver 1.8 (qcmessenger.ko).
However, that drivers can't be used in 2.6.27, plus the 2.6.27 kernel claims to support the webcam.

I've fetched and compiled:

http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-intrepid.git;a=tree;f=ubuntu/qc-usb;h=af08ea6e38e756093ada807ed79ca409afd7c174;hb=111d4d24b402fb77a7b63f816e9a729d0a11fb58

Added some of my own debug statements (USER_OPT=-DDEBUG barfed up compile errors)

 quickcam: QuickCam USB camera found (driver version QuickCam USB 0.6.6 $Date: 2006/11/04 08:38:14 $)
 quickcam: Kernel:2.6.27-7-generic bus:4 class:FF subclass:FF vendor:046D product:08F6
 quickcam: qc_stv_set(qc=ffff88005e5d4000,reg=0x1440,val=0)
 quickcam: qc_stv_set(): TEST_BUGR(dev==NULL)
 quickcam: qc_stv_set(): TEST_OK
 quickcam: ret=1=usb_control_msg(qc->dev, usb_sndctrlpipe=0000000080000300, 0x04, 0x40, reg=5184, 0, qc->dmabuf=ffff88005e5d66d8, 1, 3*250)
 quickcam: SIZE(sensors)=4
 quickcam: Testing sensor #0
 quickcam: qc_get_i2c(qc=ffff88005e5d4000,sensor=ffffffffa056bdc0,reg=0x0000)
 quickcam: qc_get_i2c(): TEST_BUGR(dev==NULL)
 quickcam: qc_get_i2c(): TEST_BUGR OK
 quickcam: qc_stv_set(qc=ffff88005e5d4000,reg=0x0423,val=1)
 quickcam: qc_stv_set(): TEST_BUGR(dev==NULL)
 quickcam: qc_stv_set(): TEST_OK
 quickcam: ret=-32=usb_control_msg(qc->dev, usb_sndctrlpipe=0000000080000300, 0x04, 0x40, reg=1059, 0, qc->dmabuf=ffff88005e5d66d8, 1, 3*250)
 quickcam: Failed qc_stv_set()=-32
 quickcam: qc_get_i2c(): qc_stv_set(qc, STV_REG23, 1) failed
 quickcam: qc_get_i2c failed, code=-32
 quickcam: qc_get_i2c() failed in SIZE(sensors) loop at 0
 usbcore: registered new interface driver quickcam

It seems to fail in usb_control_msg() for request 0x04, type 0x40, value 1059, index 0.
I'm kinda stranded there cause I haven't got the foggiest idea what that means and how to check if the webcam possibly doesn't understand that request nor what request should be sent instead.

I hope this extra info helps someone in tracking down the problem.

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isecore (isecore) wrote :

For what it's worth my Logitech Quickcam Web doesn't work either. Worked fine in Hardy (as well as all previous versions from Edgy, Feisty to Gutsy), then yesterday when I upgraded to Intrepid it stopped working.

lsusb identifies it as a

"Bus 004 Device 005: ID 046d:0850 Logitech, Inc. QuickCam Web"

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zasq (zasq) wrote :

Hi.
Same here with a camera with ID 046d:08d7 Logitech, Inc. QuickCam Communicate STX.
It worked perfectly in Hardy and not anymore in Intrepid.

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zasq (zasq) wrote :

Sorry, After reinstalling the kernel it worked in skype and cheese, but not in camorama.

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Joseph Walton-Rivers (webpigeon) wrote :

I'm having the same issue (Quickcam Messenger) - Bus 004 Device 005: ID 046d:08f0 Logitech, Inc. QuickCam Messenger

I can detect and use the inbuilt microphone, but video doesn't work. I have a TV Capture card, (this might be inter-fearing with it, however i have two Video Devices detected. Ubuntu Interpid Ibex, 2.6.27-7-generic kernel.

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infodroid (infodroid) wrote :

I'm using Intrepid Ibex and my quickcam works with Skype but not in Cheese or Camorama. So either its a bug in both programs, or its something more general.

Its worth pointing out that my /dev/video0 does actually exist.

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Hauke (hauketr) wrote :

I'm using the kernel
2.6.27-7-generic

lsusb:

Bus 002 Device 002: ID 046d:08d7 Logitech, Inc. QuickCam Communicate STX

dmesg:

[ 943.348057] usb 2-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 4
[ 943.541055] usb 2-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[ 943.547987] gspca: probing 046d:08d7
[ 945.183119] zc3xx: probe 2wr ov vga 0x0000
[ 945.227135] zc3xx: probe sensor -> 11
[ 945.227149] zc3xx: Find Sensor HV7131R(c)
[ 945.233568] gspca: probe ok
[ 945.236411] gspca: probing 046d:08d7

/dev/video0 exists.

I can use the with cheese, but:

camorama says: "Error, unable to capture image"

vidcat -d /dev/video0 -o bild.jpg
does record a picture, but its mostly black with some lines random color pixels,

mplayer tv:// -tv driver=v4l:device=/dev/video0:width=640:height=480
gives me a distorted picture, mostly red and green pixels,

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adamis (adamis) wrote :

I also have this problem. Camera doesn work with the 2.6.27 kernel. My lsusb is:

Bus 001 Device 007: ID 046d:08f5 Logitech, Inc. QuickCam Messenger Communicate

The microphone is detected but not the camera itself.

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adamis (adamis) wrote :

I also have this problem. Camera doesnt work with the 2.6.27 kernel. My lsusb is:

Bus 001 Device 007: ID 046d:08f5 Logitech, Inc. QuickCam Messenger Communicate

The microphone is detected but not the camera itself.

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adamis (adamis) wrote :

Sorry about the double post... If someone could delete the first one that would be great.

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gusvegabol (gusvegabol) wrote :
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Kernel: gksudo 2.6.27.7-generic
Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex final
lsusb: Bus 002 Device 003: ID 046d:08f6 Logitech, Inc. Quickcam Messenger Plus
Don't make /dev/video0
Can't use with: camorama, skype, cheese, xawtv

In Hardy with kernel 2.6.24-21-generic and qc-usb-messenger-1.8 works fine (qcmessenger.ko)

Easycam2 don't work.

Errors during compilation:
====================// BEGIN //========================================
make -C "/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.27-7-generic" SUBDIRS="/home/tavito810/ParchesKernel/qc-usb-messenger-1.8" modules V=1 USER_OPT="-DHAVE_UTSRELEASE_H=1"
make[1]: se ingresa al directorio `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.27-7-generic'
test -e include/linux/autoconf.h -a -e include/config/auto.conf || ( \
 echo; \
 echo " ERROR: Kernel configuration is invalid."; \
 echo " include/linux/autoconf.h or include/config/auto.conf are missing."; \
 echo " Run 'make oldconfig && make prepare' on kernel src to fix it."; \
 echo; \
 /bin/false)
mkdir -p /home/tavito810/ParchesKernel/qc-usb-messenger-1.8/.tmp_versions ; rm -f /home/tavito810/ParchesKernel/qc-usb-messenger-1.8/.tmp_versions/*
make -f scripts/Makefile.build obj=/home/tavito810/ParchesKernel/qc-usb-messenger-1.8
  gcc -Wp,-MD,/home/tavito810/ParchesKernel/qc-usb-messenger-1.8/.qc-driver.o.d -nostdinc -isystem /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.3.2/include -D__KERNEL__ -Iinclude -I/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.27-7-generic/arch/x86/include -include include/linux/autoconf.h -Iubuntu/include -Wall -Wundef -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-trigraphs -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -Werror-implicit-function-declaration -O2 -m32 -msoft-float -mregparm=3 -freg-struct-return -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -march=i586 -mtune=generic -ffreestanding -pipe -Wno-sign-compare -fno-asynchronous-unwind-tables -mno-sse -mno-mmx -mno-sse2 -mno-3dnow -Iinclude/asm-x86/mach-default -fno-stack-protector -fno-omit-frame-pointer -fno-optimize-sibling-calls -pg -Wdeclaration-after-statement -Wno-pointer-sign -DNOKERNEL -DHAVE_UTSRELEASE_H=1 -DMODULE -D"KBUILD_STR(s)=#s" -D"KBUILD_BASENAME=KBUILD_STR(qc_driver)" -D"KBUILD_MODNAME=KBUILD_STR(qcmessenger)" -c -o /home/tavito810/ParchesKernel/qc-usb-messenger-1.8/.tmp_qc-driver.o /home/tavito810/ParchesKernel/qc-usb-messenger-1.8/qc-driver.c
/home/tavito810/ParchesKernel/qc-usb-messenger-1.8/qc-driver.c: En la función ‘qc_frame_exit’:
/home/tavito810/ParchesKernel/qc-usb-messenger-1.8/qc-driver.c:1619: error: petición del miembro ‘counter’ en algo que no es una estructura o unión
/home/tavito810/ParchesKernel/qc-usb-messenger-1.8/qc-driver.c:1630: error: petición del miembro ‘counter’ en algo que no es una estructura o unión
/home/tavito810/ParchesKernel/qc-usb-messenger-1.8/qc-driver.c: En la función ‘qc_frame_get’:
/home/tavito810/ParchesKernel/qc-usb-messenger-1.8/qc-driver.c:1659: error: petición del miembro ‘counter’ en algo que no es una estructura o unión
/home/tavito810/ParchesKernel/qc-usb-messenger-1.8/qc-driver.c:1666: error: petición del miembro ‘counter’ en algo que no es una estructura o unión
/home/tavito810/ParchesKernel/qc-usb-messenger-1.8/qc-driver.c: En la función ‘qc_v4l_open’:
/home/tavito810/Par...

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manuel (manuel-soto) wrote :
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Same problem in Ubuntu 8.04, mic works but no camera

Bus 001 Device 015: ID 15ca:00c3
Bus 001 Device 014: ID 046d:08f6 Logitech, Inc.
Bus 001 Device 013: ID 05e3:0608 Genesys Logic, Inc. USB-2.0 4-Port HUB
Bus 001 Device 003: ID 049f:000e Compaq Computer Corp. Internet Keyboard
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
-------------
 sudo lsusb -v

Bus 001 Device 015: ID 15ca:00c3
Device Descriptor:
  bLength 18
  bDescriptorType 1
  bcdUSB 2.00
  bDeviceClass 0 (Defined at Interface level)
  bDeviceSubClass 0
  bDeviceProtocol 0
  bMaxPacketSize0 8
  idVendor 0x15ca
  idProduct 0x00c3
  bcdDevice 5.12
  iManufacturer 0
  iProduct 2 USB Optical Mouse
  iSerial 0
  bNumConfigurations 1
  Configuration Descriptor:
    bLength 9
    bDescriptorType 2
    wTotalLength 34
    bNumInterfaces 1
    bConfigurationValue 1
    iConfiguration 0
    bmAttributes 0xa0
      (Bus Powered)
      Remote Wakeup
    MaxPower 98mA
    Interface Descriptor:
      bLength 9
      bDescriptorType 4
      bInterfaceNumber 0
      bAlternateSetting 0
      bNumEndpoints 1
      bInterfaceClass 3 Human Interface Device
      bInterfaceSubClass 1 Boot Interface Subclass
      bInterfaceProtocol 2 Mouse
      iInterface 0
        HID Device Descriptor:
          bLength 9
          bDescriptorType 33
          bcdHID 1.10
          bCountryCode 0 Not supported
          bNumDescriptors 1
          bDescriptorType 34 Report
          wDescriptorLength 72
         Report Descriptors:
           ** UNAVAILABLE **
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength 7
        bDescriptorType 5
        bEndpointAddress 0x81 EP 1 IN
        bmAttributes 3
          Transfer Type Interrupt
          Synch Type None
          Usage Type Data
        wMaxPacketSize 0x0004 1x 4 bytes
        bInterval 10
Device Status: 0x0000
  (Bus Powered)

Bus 001 Device 014: ID 046d:08f6 Logitech, Inc.
Device Descriptor:
  bLength 18
  bDescriptorType 1
  bcdUSB 2.00
  bDeviceClass 255 Vendor Specific Class
  bDeviceSubClass 255 Vendor Specific Subclass
  bDeviceProtocol 255 Vendor Specific Protocol
  bMaxPacketSize0 8
  idVendor 0x046d Logitech, Inc.
  idProduct 0x08f6
  bcdDevice 1.00
  iManufacturer 0
  iProduct 1 Camera
  iSerial 0
  bNumConfigurations 1
  Configuration Descriptor:
    bLength 9
    bDescriptorType 2
    wTotalLength 173
    bNumInterfaces 3
    bConfigurationValue 1
    iConfiguration 0
    bmAttributes 0xa0
      (Bus Powered)
      Remote Wakeup
    MaxPower 100mA
    Interface Descriptor:
      bLength ...

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Havoc][ (kubuntu-actinoide) wrote :
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Same for me - Webcam doesnt work.

OS: Kubuntu 8.10
Kernel: 2.6.27-9-generic #1 SMP

15:52:38] jeschmidt@curium:~ > sudo lsusb -v
...
Bus 001 Device 005: ID 046d:08f6 Logitech, Inc. Quickcam Messenger Plus
Device Descriptor:
  bLength 18
  bDescriptorType 1
  bcdUSB 2.00
  bDeviceClass 255 Vendor Specific Class
  bDeviceSubClass 255 Vendor Specific Subclass
  bDeviceProtocol 255 Vendor Specific Protocol
  bMaxPacketSize0 8
  idVendor 0x046d Logitech, Inc.
  idProduct 0x08f6 Quickcam Messenger Plus
  bcdDevice 1.00
  iManufacturer 0
  iProduct 1 Camera
  iSerial 0
  bNumConfigurations 1
  Configuration Descriptor:
    bLength 9
    bDescriptorType 2
    wTotalLength 173
    bNumInterfaces 3
    bConfigurationValue 1
    iConfiguration 0
    bmAttributes 0xa0
      (Bus Powered)
      Remote Wakeup
    MaxPower 100mA
    Interface Descriptor:
      bLength 9
      bDescriptorType 4
      bInterfaceNumber 0
      bAlternateSetting 0
      bNumEndpoints 2
      bInterfaceClass 255 Vendor Specific Class
      bInterfaceSubClass 255 Vendor Specific Subclass
      bInterfaceProtocol 255 Vendor Specific Protocol
      iInterface 0
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength 7
        bDescriptorType 5
        bEndpointAddress 0x81 EP 1 IN
        bmAttributes 1
          Transfer Type ...

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AFarris01 (afarris01) wrote :

same problem.... logitech QuickCam Messenger Communicate does not work under intrepid (kernel 2.6.27-9)

i also had the exact same issue as gusvegabol when trying to use easycam2, no go.

the camera is detected when plugged in, but as a microphone/usb device. no video device is created for it.

dmesg for when i plug the thing in:
usb 2-3.5: new full speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 9
usb 2-3.5: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice

lsusb shows:
Bus 002 Device 009: ID 046d:08f5 Logitech, Inc. QuickCam Messenger Communicate

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econan (emresaglam) wrote :

Similar problem in jaunty. The camera is recognized, and udev inserts the correct(?) kernel module: quickcam. However the video device is not created. (No /dev/video*)

Bus 004 Device 005: ID 046d:08f6 Logitech, Inc. Quickcam Messenger Plus

$ dmesg | tail -4
[61040.096017] usb 4-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 5
[61040.316740] usb 4-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[61040.319144] quickcam: QuickCam USB camera found (driver version QuickCam USB 0.6.6 $Date: 2006/11/04 08:38:14 $)
[61040.319150] quickcam: Kernel:2.6.28.9 bus:4 class:FF subclass:FF vendor:046D product:08F6

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exactt (giesbert) wrote :

setting this back to confirmed as it is not fixed for the actual model. it needs a different driver than qs-usb. read also this thread https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kernel-team/2009-February/004328.html for more information.

Changed in linux (Ubuntu):
status: Fix Released → Confirmed
summary: - webcam Logitech QuickCam Messenger ID 046d:08f6 is not reconized
+ webcam Logitech QuickCam Messenger ID 046d:08f5 / 046d:08f6 is not
+ recognized
exactt (giesbert)
summary: - webcam Logitech QuickCam Messenger ID 046d:08f5 / 046d:08f6 is not
- recognized
+ webcam Logitech QuickCam Messenger ID 046d:08f0 / 046d:08f5 / 046d:08f6
+ is not recognized
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