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if you find crashes that can be worked on, just undupe them.

Alexander, could this bug be related?

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/213689

On Fri, May 09, 2008 at 10:49:52PM -0000, Adys wrote:
> Alexander, could this bug be related?
>
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/213689
>

Yes, flash is always a possible crasher. maybe ask if he uses flash
and if uninstalling helps

 - Alexander

I personally don't use flash (nor java) and have experienced this bug, even on Google Reader which doesn't use any of those plugins.

i reported this bus too and now i think that flash could be the problem here so how we can fix????

On Sat, Jun 07, 2008 at 03:33:00AM -0000, Angel wrote:
> i reported this bus too and now i think that flash could be the problem
> here so how we can fix????
>

Flash crashes might get better if you remove libflashsupport package
from your system.

If that doesn't help enough, you should try to use
mozilla-plugin-gnash or swfdec-mozilla - the both freesoftware
alternatives we have for adobes flash. Both should be much more
stable, but might not work for all sites - though lots of use-cases
should work.

 - Alexander

Alexander,

libflashsupport package was already not in system.
mozilla-plugin-gnash already installed.
Installed swfdec-mozilla.
Removed flash-plugin-nonfree (presumably theadobe flash you refer to?).

Firefox still crashes!

On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 04:26:46PM -0000, John Rose wrote:
> Alexander,
>
> libflashsupport package was already not in system.
> mozilla-plugin-gnash already installed.
> Installed swfdec-mozilla.
> Removed flash-plugin-nonfree (presumably theadobe flash you refer to?).
>
> Firefox still crashes!
>

get a backtrace like described at

  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs#head-c576e78d92cb3c959c271158b6ace98be835de83

Then open a new bug and attach the gathered information.

Thanks,

 - Alexander

= libflashsupport package was already not in system.
# mozilla-plugin-gnash already installed.
# Installed swfdec-mozilla.
? flash-plugin-nonfree not found by my Synaptic

This page crashes Firefox http://www.boursier.com/vals/FR/FR0004038099-cours-gfi+informatique.html

... wtf ?

I get random crashes too, flash is not the problem in my case since many of the pages that crash it do not use flash.

Crashed whie watching video streaming

I get frequent crashes as well, which may be related. It mostly happens when browsing to http://www.telegraaf.nl

Attached is the gdb output during one of these crashes. Hope it helps.

Cheers,
Jos

I get an awful lot of random crashes. So far so, I'm thinking of going back to FF2. One example attached.

On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 04:23:05PM -0000, emorris wrote:
> I get an awful lot of random crashes. So far so, I'm thinking of going
> back to FF2. One example attached.
>
> ** Attachment added: "gdb-firefox.txt"
> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/16092992/gdb-firefox.txt
>

this is a flashplayer crash. try to disable your other extensions and
also see if you can uninstall libflashsupport package from your system.

 - Alexander

Any Phoronix news story now crashes Firefox for me. I didn't upgrade firefox or do anything that I know of, but it crashes 100% of the time now.

Here is a sample URL: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NjYxOA

I suspect this might be a specific case to me, but is there any info I can go about getting?

Also, I have AdBlock on.

>this is a flashplayer crash. try to disable your other extensions and
> also see if you can uninstall libflashsupport package from your system.
> - Alexander

What's the point. Loads of websites are useless or very poor without flash.

On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 02:08:54PM -0000, emorris wrote:
> >this is a flashplayer crash. try to disable your other extensions and
> > also see if you can uninstall libflashsupport package from your system.
> > - Alexander
>
> What's the point. Loads of websites are useless or very poor without
> flash.
>

Dont try to think too much. doing what i said wont remove flash from
your system.

 - Alexander

@Alexander Sack:
Oh, sorry.
Just checked and I don't have libflashsupport installed anyway.

You should just try to visit paypal.com and it will crash, the same in scenereleases.info, i tried to turn off my addons and nothing helped, I did install the offecial version from mozilla(not the ubuntu one) and it do same crashes at the same sites.

I do use firefox 3.0.1

My mozilla doesn't crash anywhere i go, it crashes when Internet/Ethernet is down and i launch Mozilla. Instead of popping window "internet connection not available" or something, it pulls the whole system down, gradually, as you try to shut the browser down, etc, everything bogs down until it stops responding. It's so bad in fact, even after reboot it doesn't clean up all the mess and keep telling "another session of mozilla is running, you must turn it off etc."Or something to that effect.
The administrator e-mailed me that i have to first activate apport to start automatic debugging. But now i I will have to recreate the problem intentionally, it only happened accidentally, my wife unplugged my cable modem and gateway,when moving furniture around.
Right now both my vehicles are down so i can't do too much here, i have to put one of them on the road..
It's quite a job to get it going again (the computer) after the crash, i think i finally managed it in recovery mode.
thanks Mike

Shwan <email address hidden> wrote: You should just try to visit paypal.com and it will crash, the same in
scenereleases.info, i tried to turn off my addons and nothing helped, I
did install the offecial version from mozilla(not the ubuntu one) and it
do same crashes at the same sites.

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Mine crashes on some sites that have flash and some that dont. Allmost everytime I shut down Firefox It crashes. Whe I restart it tries to resume. This is like it was on 8,04 test for me.

@Shwan:
They both work fine for me.

Same here

Shwan <email address hidden> wrote: I do use firefox 3.0.1

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This could possibly be a Gecko issue.
Using either FF 3.0 or Epiphany (latest as of today in Intrepid).

NO flash installed.
ONLY opening Google Reader.

-felix

Felix, I already replied several times to various suggestions, I assumed these would be posted on web to be read first.
This has NOTHING TO DO with using Firefox.
This about launching, starting Firefox 3.0.1 when the Internet is down. My cable modem and router power supplies got accidentally unplugged, and Firefox proceeded to gradually bog down and crash the system.
All the while it was claiming that "another session of Firefox is already running......." which it wasn't and it wouldn't have mattered, I routinely open two sessions of Firefox, and they run fine. On my ThinkPad, at least.
This can happen to anyone who has a notebook or UPS, and power goes out just before they start Firefox.
What is scary about it, it doesn't recover even after reboot, i finally brought it up in recovery mode.
I will have to re-create the problem so it will create the crash file for automatic debugging, but i don't have time now.

felix <email address hidden> wrote: This could possibly be a Gecko issue.
Using either FF 3.0 or Epiphany (latest as of today in Intrepid).

NO flash installed.
ONLY opening Google Reader.

-felix

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I'm getting this also for some reason. Running 64 bit Alpha 5

I experienced somethings equal!
Heavy flash sites (f.e. www.corriere.it) easly lead to a crash.
The result was:
firefox crashed with SIGSEGV in XVisualIDFromVisual()

No idea about what this means (sorry)!
Best regards
David

You should be right!
Probably it is a flash problem. again

My best regards

Nick

I experienced somethings equal!
Heavy flash sites (f.e. www.corriere.it) easly lead to a crash.
The result was:
firefox crashed with SIGSEGV in XVisualIDFromVisual()

No idea about what this means (sorry)!
Best regards
David

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I don't think it's a flash problem. corriere.it didn't crash my FF,and I know other flash sites work.I'm on FF 3.0.1 too...

it might be a flash problem ... my flash stopped working entirely arounfd
the time these crashes started on my comp...alpha 5 64 bit ff3.0.1

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> I don't think it's a flash problem. corriere.it didn't crash my FF,and I
> know other flash sites work.I'm on FF 3.0.1 too...
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Thank you guys for all the comments, but the crashes you are talking about are completely UNRELATED to the what happened to me.
Mike

Phoenix --rise-from-ashes <email address hidden> wrote: I don't think it's a flash problem. corriere.it didn't crash my FF,and I
know other flash sites work.I'm on FF 3.0.1 too...

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I too get lots crashes when I open a video clip even on BBC.co.uk It just closes down Firefox and when I restart Firefox it asks me if I wish to resume? I take the resume option and the clip plays without a problem. What the difference is between the first time and the second time I don't know. Could it be a timing problem? My computer has 4Gb of RAM and a quad processor so there's no shortage of computing grunt. The problem appears completely random and it can even happen when I try to play an audio clip.

It didn't crash any more with me. may be because of some update to extensions.

I do have to say that I was using 8.10 Intrepid when firefox kept crashing whenever i viewed a flash video.I had to go back to 8.04 Hardy for the moment.

I found the reason. The libflashsupport crashed my firefox whenever i
was trying to watch video. I removed it and everything is OK now.

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I got the same problem with the continuous crashes of firefox. I run firefox in a terminal and when it crashes I had the following

mario@mario-desktop:~$ firefox
** Message: GetValue variable 1 (1)
** Message: GetValue variable 2 (2)
** Message: GetValue variable 1 (1)
** Message: GetValue variable 2 (2)
** Message: GetValue variable 1 (1)
** Message: GetValue variable 2 (2)
** Message: GetValue variable 1 (1)
** Message: GetValue variable 2 (2)
** Message: GetValue variable 1 (1)
** Message: GetValue variable 2 (2)

(firefox:14951): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
Fallo de segmentación
mario@mario-desktop:~$

There's a segmentation fail.

Does this happen on any specific web-page?

Vadim
obviously you didn't read my report either. (it makes everything sooo much easier, you know)
No, in fact it doesn't happen on Internet, it happens WITHOUT Internet. When my Internet cable modem and router is disabled and i try to launch Firefox, it crashes the system.
thanx Mike

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I was replying to the last message, which was posted by Kr0m@gn0n, but
thank you for your vigilance.

Well, I don't remenber what web-page, but a segmentation fail says that a pointer try to aim to a occupied memory direction. Thus the fail comes from the web browser not from a specific web-page.

There can be many reasons why firefox crashes, and shows the same symptoms.

What we are seeing here are at least 2 different bugs. One, in which flash
is the problem, and one, which has nothing to do with flash.

On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 4:00 PM, Vadim Peretokin <email address hidden>wrote:

> I was replying to the last message, which was posted by Kr0m@gn0n, but
> thank you for your vigilance.
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Crashed after clicking a javascript.print() button, which subsequently opened the print dialog.

The print dialog itself however didn't come up right (empty window) and the windows of firefox where unresponsive from that second on.

After viewing a couple of Youtube videos full screen, I close the video, then close FF and boom crash.

try this page.
its an image 500000 pixels wide, 272K:
http://www.dobroc.com/kuba/test.png

my firefox (on ubuntu) crashes instantly.

That crashes my Firefox on 8.10 too.

I think that should be opened in a separate bug if this is a reproducible
issue.

Yeah that did it alright :-)

On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 17:18, kuba <email address hidden> wrote:

> try this page.
> its an image 500000 pixels wide, 272K:
> http://www.dobroc.com/kuba/test.png
>
> my firefox (on ubuntu) crashes instantly.
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Well that definitely did crash my Firefox but how is that related to this bug?

I would open another thread on this issue as a new bug.

If anyone else has not caught how he accomplished that yet, that photo is actually not a PNG. Its a GIF image with the extension renamed to .png. So it is a viable GIF image (50,000 px wide by 120px high) which makes it seem that whatever mechanism Firefox uses to determine what the file's real type is is currently flawed.

Ill retry it again with a random GIF and see if its related to that particular image do to its size or not and post back.

I thought I had my problem worked out. I tired the above url and had imediate crash of FF. http://www.dobroc.com/kuba/test.png

Ok so I tried it with a random gif file (http://pds-rings.seti.org/saturn/images/ring_sat.gif) and renamed it to .png and tried again, locally on my pc and not through a web server. and was unable to reproduce the issue. Firefox is correctly able to load the image use the File Open dialogue as well as through an html file using the img tag.

Therefore, whatever is causing that to work is due to the data of that particular image.

sorry for wrong posting, reported the bug here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/299107
also i copied the file to gif extension, no change.

The file you linked to also crashes my firefox, no other images i've tried
have the problem, so theres something specific in this image which hits a
firefox bug.

2008/11/17 kuba <email address hidden>

> sorry for wrong posting, reported the bug here:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/299107
> also i copied the file to gif extension, no change.
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@kuba, the gif extension itself is not what matters, I was merely saying that the image was a GIF image with the extension renamed. So if you download the png to your computer, then rename it to GIF, you can see the image in a picture viewer. If you dont do that then a picture viewer will most likely not display the 50,000 px image.

You can prove its a gif by dumping the first bit of the binary data on the command line running:
more test.png

In which case the first thing you should see is the GIF identifier. I think this image may have embedded code in it that causes Firefox to crash if its not related to the actual size of the image, which I would find really difficult to believe is actually the problem here.

See the other bug report he links to, i've had a bit of further
experimentation and posted results there.

2008/11/17 Julio Lajara <email address hidden>

> @kuba, the gif extension itself is not what matters, I was merely saying
> that the image was a GIF image with the extension renamed. So if you
> download the png to your computer, then rename it to GIF, you can see
> the image in a picture viewer. If you dont do that then a picture viewer
> will most likely not display the 50,000 px image.
>
> You can prove its a gif by dumping the first bit of the binary data on the
> command line running:
> more test.png
>
> In which case the first thing you should see is the GIF identifier. I
> think this image may have embedded code in it that causes Firefox to
> crash if its not related to the actual size of the image, which I would
> find really difficult to believe is actually the problem here.
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Firefox just seems very unstable with this flash site

CNN Live flash edition causes crashes when you try to close the popup.

Not aware of any flash content, just went from craigslist to userfriendly.org, and then decided to close the browser. It then hung. I forced quit, sent the report. I'm using jaunty.

Was opening a new tab, had greasemonkey window open. Crashed when I closed greasemonkey window.

Don't start firefox-3.0; no work in task manager.

2009/3/17 Z Hespelt <email address hidden>

> Was opening a new tab, had greasemonkey window open. Crashed when I
> closed greasemonkey window.
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the sky did as dropping. I am studying in IT, so the internet is all, and firefox is all of internet. As this, it is be crashing. I can't use bookmark, history, have no infomation about cookies. and loading is always slow, slow
Thank my god, if you would help solve it as early as possible.

It doens't crash any more for me, at least from 3.05

it does not say that it is flash doing this. and mine crashed logging out of my bank page no flas needed on that page. So please stop accusing flash as a culprit. It just closes my FF3 without warning!

How can this be medium when it is our browser? Internet is nothing without it. I would like to read my news and emails is not a medium thing to me. It is my link to the web.

http://www.umblu.com/?p=54

man i just started getting this all the time now. I do have some PPA's pinned lower than 500 but otherwise i'm stock xubuntu 8.10

that png address above crashes me too. Other sites seem to do it after 5-10 mins of surfing.

Importance should be High

random:
This bug is not about a single crash.
most of these crashes are caused by an extension a website a not restarting Firefox after updates plugins ect....
If you can get a crash report using apport and follow the instructions on the prompts. when a crash happens apport will bring up a dialog asking you to file a report.

ok, many thanks to pay attention to this situation!!!!!

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I'm on 3.0.9
And usually I'll be browsing as normal, no probs. But then all of a sudden FF just stops responding, and it's usually Facebook that seems to cause it.

Every now and then I get "unresponsive script" messages too. Dunno if thats related, I'm no programmer after all xD

I just woke and this happen when I checked my hotmail.com. I didnt think I would make it to bugs.launchpad.net to report this =S thought I would be reinstalling again =( hopefully devs are working hard at this.

oh also my whole screen lowered its resolution and seems to be stuck in like 600 x 480 something =S everything is really big but I checked the setting for resolution and its under 1300 x 700 16:9. I dont know what happen I didnt I downloaded an update either all happen this morning

on PowerPc G4, ubuntu9.04Jaunty For PPC.
Firefox 3.0.10

on Youtube, I clicked next contents, then drop down on the desktop.

Whenever I right-click any of the browser menu items, Firefox segfaults. I can right click anything within the webpage I am viewing without this issue.

running FF 3.0.13 on Ubuntu 9.04

Firefox crashes when I bring a tab to the foreground which has this page in it:
http://jasoncalacanis.posterous.com/virgin-america-lax-to-jfk

does not crash while the tab is in background but 2-3 seconds after I bring
this tab to forground, I get small popup in bottom right corner saying:
"loading next page" and then firefox dies (exits).

Running FF 3.0.15 on Ubuntu 9.04 32bit.

I have Flash installed but during last crash I wasn't using it due to having everything blocked by the Flashblock add-on (v 1.3.12a1). It seems that at the time of the crash I lost my wireless and reconnected, which may have caused the crash (no idea- I just want to point out it happened at the same time). This is what I see in the syslog (and I just assume that what this means is: lost wireless and reconnected):

Nov 7 11:21:43 paullaptop2 NetworkManager: <debug> [1257589303.002173] periodic_update(): Roamed from BSSID 00:1B:2F:E6:FE:EA (blurpotres) to (none) ((none))
Nov 7 11:21:49 paullaptop2 NetworkManager: <debug> [1257589309.001846] periodic_update(): Roamed from BSSID (none) ((none)) to 00:1B:2F:E6:FE:EA (blurpotres)

Thanks to whoever provided the useful reminder about the tab setting in response to the previous spleen venting.

I don' t know if this is really the same bug I'm seeing--and I don't care anymore. After several years of using Ubuntu, I am now convinced that it is going down the toilet and cannot be relied upon. This comment (which was just interrupted by ANOTHER unprovoked Firefox shutdown--at least the 3rd this hour), is just spleen venting. I'm just waiting for a better alternative or to be forced all the way back to Microsoft. I am NOT waiting for Ubuntu to get better. The trend line on Ubuntu is absolutely clear: Right down the toilet.

I guess that's enough and I may as well post this before Firefox crashes again.

Oh yeah. One more point of annoyance. A bug-reporting system that strongly depends on a buggy piece of software is not worth much. However, I've already suggested the obvious REAL improvement directed at the root of increasing the regression testing.

I am using firefox 3.6 Not a problem but I am still on the older 9.10 unbuntu because every time I try and upgrade to 10.04 it will not boot up It is a smoother and cleaner os but I really wish they would fix the upgrade issue.
 My firfox has closed a few times but remembers my tabs so nothing lost but time so far.
 I have windows at work but do not care for all the intrusions I get from windows like for 1. the freezing up.
 Mu ubuntu does not do this I can leave it on for weeks even month where The Windows I use needs rebooting some times 3 times a day, to just one time.

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Oh yeah. One more point of annoyance. A bug-reporting system that
strongly depends on a buggy piece of software is not worth much.
However, I've already suggested the obvious REAL improvement directed at
the root of increasing the regression testing.

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I don't mind discussing thing, but it seems pretty pointless. Actually, on the two machines that I normally run under Ubuntu, I also am forced to use older versions of Ubuntu because the newer versions are NOT reliable enough. I am running the newest version experimentally on three machines--but I can't rely on it. This is NOT progress.

For what little it is worth, I think the fundamental problem with Ubuntu is that the economic model they are using is broken. It worked to a certain point, but at this point the regression testing is clearly inadequate. As a constructive suggestion, here is a link to a funding model that might provide a better balance between new features and keeping things working:

http://eco-epistemology.blogspot.com/2009/11/economics-of-small-donors-reverse.html

If I rememebr the upgrade issues started about 7.04 up to 7.10 then I have never been able to use the new OS Upgrade unless I download it and start fresh losing my apps. Now I save  it to a second hard drive so not to lose them.
 So if ubuntu design teams actually reads this we all who love the OS , would like a fix to this. I write somewhere on the forum bug fix whatever but never find or get a fix for the issue.
Thank you Shannon for sharing this with all of us .
I twould be funny if you and I are the only ones participating  in this Launchpad report..
Ubuntu has a winning item and I don't know the pains they have in providing this to us, but I would love more ease of upgrade to the system.

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From: shanen (Shannon Jacobs) <email address hidden>
Subject: [Bug 228806] Re: [MASTER] various unrelated crashes for firefox-3.0 and xulrunner-1.9
To: <email address hidden>
Date: Friday, July 30, 2010, 5:22 PM

I don't mind discussing thing, but it seems pretty pointless. Actually,
on the two machines that I normally run under Ubuntu, I also am forced
to use older versions of Ubuntu because the newer versions are NOT
reliable enough. I am running the newest version experimentally on three
machines--but I can't rely on it. This is NOT progress.

For what little it is worth, I think the fundamental problem with Ubuntu
is that the economic model they are using is broken. It worked to a
certain point, but at this point the regression testing is clearly
inadequate. As a constructive suggestion, here is a link to a funding
model that might provide a better balance between new features and
keeping things working:

http://eco-epistemology.blogspot.com/2009/11/economics-of-small-donors-
reverse.html

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[MASTER] various unrelated crashes for firefox-3.0 and xulrunner-1.9
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/228806
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Status in “firefox-3.0” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed

Bug description:
Binary package hint: firefox-3.0

firefox-3.0 and xulrunner-1.9 need a crash sink bug. This one serves this purpose.

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@ Shannon Jones

Quite obviously you have an issue with firefox (this is not under the main control of the ubuntu dev team).
It is most probably caused by a plugin you have running and nothing to do with Ubuntu at its core, disable your plugins and see if that helps then complain to who wrote the plugin.

This is a bug reporting system and if you want to rant write a blog. This is for serious software discussion.
If you have a serious bug report then please report it with a good title and information so that it can be fixed.

Ubuntu isn't really under any specific economic model.
The open source movement is about freedom of software and hardware, if you want paid support and someone you can moan at please buy windows.

*** sorry Shannon Jacobs (misread name due to late night)

@ Danny Wood
Some was helpful as now we may understand it could be a plugin on her firefox. But to suggest Windows was a little cold don't you think. Educating us was fine , but to bash the issuee in such a manner was unfair. I myself was unaware of how to use this , "launchpad bug fix. Teach us something as to How to seek help here please. I do not want to be told to go to windows and complain thats useless with the history of Microsoft not listening to people where as Ubuntu Linux has come up with something that works with a few mishaps unlike windows Ubuntu Works  .
 I place an apology to those reading these comments thinking I am in the wrong. But I am ignorant to the use of this tool. I ask for education , not ridicule about  my problem and voicing it here. I understand this is not a forum or a blog now.
 I would contribute to Linux Ubuntu, When I have funds but not having that I can not donate to something I believe in here. I am not a trouble maker , so please don't think badly of me I am just a bit ignorant to the process and say I am sorry about that.
But thanks Danny you have made a good point I will appreciate. So how do we use this properly without My disturbances?

Charles

--- On Fri, 7/30/10, Danny Wood <email address hidden> wrote:

From: Danny Wood <email address hidden>
Subject: [Bug 228806] Re: [MASTER] various unrelated crashes for firefox-3.0 and xulrunner-1.9
To: <email address hidden>
Date: Friday, July 30, 2010, 6:29 PM

@ Shannon Jones

Quite obviously you have an issue with firefox (this is not under the main control of the ubuntu dev team).
It is most probably caused by a plugin you have running and nothing to do with Ubuntu at its core, disable your plugins and see if that helps then complain to who wrote the plugin.

This is a bug reporting system and if you want to rant write a blog. This is for serious software discussion.
If you have a serious bug report then please report it with a good title and information so that it can be fixed.

Ubuntu isn't really under any specific economic model.
The open source movement is about freedom of software and hardware, if you want paid support and someone you can moan at please buy windows.

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[MASTER] various unrelated crashes for firefox-3.0 and xulrunner-1.9
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/228806
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of the bug.

Status in “firefox-3.0” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed

Bug description:
Binary package hint: firefox-3.0

firefox-3.0 and xulrunner-1.9 need a crash sink bug. This one serves this purpose.

To unsubscribe from this bug, go to:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/228806/+subscribe

I have (at least twice) already used the supposedly automatic system to collect and submit the information that is supposed to diagnose these new Firefox problems. In the past, before I lost hope for Ubuntu, I also volunteered to undertake additional diagnostic measures or to run additional tests (within reason). I have seen possibly related problems in Firefox running on some of my other machines--even including one of the Windows boxen--but this particular machine is the only combination that is so utterly problematic.

At this point I'm actually getting close to retirement. Maybe I'll even do some volunteer programming when I have the time, but at several periods in my career I was a professional programmer at various levels, so I know how difficult it is to write good code. Mostly at database levels, but sometimes as low as assembly. Unfortunately, I was only a second-string programmer--but that means I appreciate the value of first-string programmers and I know that they are worth paying for. My company even provides some programmers to support open source projects--but the truth is that we are going to tend to focus our precious first-string programmers on our most important projects...

A browser that closes randomly is not very useful for serious work.

I was getting too afraid to continue pending the next crash, but so far it's been stable... <knock on wood>

I really want viable alternatives to Windows. I believe that freedom is a good thing and that freedom depends on meaningful choice. Linux could be such a choice, but so far it has remained a minor niche product. Ubuntu once appeared to have the potential to be another viable alternative to Windows--but I obviously no longer feel that way.

I am mostly disappointed, but also frustrated and somewhat angry when one of the crashes manages to destroy something I'm attempting to do on this machine.

With regards to the earlier comment about Windows, I believe there was only one time in my life when I freely purchased a copy of Windows, though there were a couple of times when I chose to buy other Microsoft products. Long time ago.

I'm still forced to use Microsoft products--because their ugly economic model works. You're supposed to recommend Apple as the alternative--but they are becoming more evil and more anti-freedom than Microsoft these days.

Maybe Chrome will be the option? Google has shown some cleverness in devising new economic models--though they have also shown increasing evidence of evil...

But my Firefox works fine, since i upped it to 3.6.6, it's just fine. This
is on top of the fact i don't have enough memory. I find that really
underhanded, that they don't give system requirements up front, so i was led
to upgrade to 10.04 only to find out later, it needs min. 1GB RAM. Sorry, (i
am also retiring), but to me 512MB is one hell of a lot of memory....
I only did it because since i upgraded from 8.04 up everything went wrong,
and i noticed they couldn't handle all the problems, so they rushed in a new
upgrade, but my printer still wouldn't work, and no sound etc. So i kept
upgrading to these new distros that were coming at me at a dazzling speed,
and no improvement. Now it doesn't boot, and no help, i read on the forum a
lot of seasoned users were going back to "old" (i guess it was the "good old
one") version of grub, but it was pretty kinky to do it, so i didn't bother.
I still boot in recovery mode, it takes a bit longer, but it works. Except
no sound, no printer, language support all messed up (lucky i don't need
it), Power Management has a bug in it, i didn't bother posting all these, i
figger somebody will, and if they don't, it's obviously my fault. I have
ThinkPad, so i figger if it's a general bug, somebody else gonna have to
have same problem. Like it's not a special, custom machine...
But i don't have any crash problems, even tho i have only half RAM as
recommended. Altho the nice person who answered my post, repeatedly
insinuated to check this or that, ignoring my pleas that i don't have any
crash problems, and stubbornly insisted i check my RAM, so i did, and it was
OK, i new that, i used to do hardware, and i know bad RAM poses random,
unpredictable problems. My were pretty solid and almost repeatable (firefox
crashes, mostly on BBC -- too much graphics, flash videos etc). But the new
Firefox is just fine for me, but nothing else works. No print (printer queue
setup failed -- there is several hundreds of posts on launch pad, so i
figger it would be superfluous to post another, SAME, problem. But i
remember it did work at some point, but i forget which distro it was, x-cept
USB never worked right, but the printer worked. But no it doesn't, progress,
i donno. I didn't even dare posting the USB bug. It's the CUPS, it's all
new.
I used to write some code, back in DOS / win 3.xx days. In straight C, the
C++ was just new, and I looked into it, totally new paradigm, but then
destiny moved me some where else and i could see i would never use it
again, so gave up on it.
But i would not go back to Windows, there is no way, these frustrations are
nothing compared to Winders, Gates is scam artist of our lifetime, and
everybody f-ing loves him, for ripping hundreds of BILLIONS from them, it's
outrageous. But it's not about money, it's about scam, my wife believes he
"he invented this little chip" and changed the computing world.
Well, he never invented anything in hardware dept., and he never really
learned how the hardware works, hence the whole tragi-comedy of early days
of programming.
Endless new versions of DOS (he didn't write DOS as everyone believes, he
bought it from Jim Patterson, and sold it to IBM on contract, rea...

So i will note something to all those who have trouble with FF crashes:
It is, was (and will be?) the damned 'nspluginwrapper'!

For me (and certainly a lot of more people) worked this - but be warned, for 64 bit machines is no actuall package available!:
UNINSTALL the 'flashplugin' from Adobe incl. the 'nspluginwrapper', execute and look again for lost packages how can removed (I don't know if there are more dependencies?)
Look at http://get.adobe.com/de/flashplayer/otherversions/ for the *.tar.gz of the flash player, download it, extract and become :-) the "libflashplayer.so" file.
Copy this for every users extra as "root" into ~/.mozilla/plugins.
Observance: - ahead "mozilla" is a point, so this directory is hidden!
                        - if the directory "plugins" does not exists simple create it!
                        - to make the changes happen close all FF instances!
All important: Now it is on YOUR charge to update this package if bugs where fixed/a new version appears!

I still work with the old 10.0 version of the flash player cause of the ignorance from Adobe ("temporarily closed the Labs program of Flash Player 10 for 64-bit Linux") but had absolutly no crashes since I installed the flash on this way!

Good look
LAZA
*who is also eroded about the 10.04

P.S.: If you like the concept of Ubuntu but the software doesn't work try another distro that bases on Ubuntu like
- CrunchBang
- Mint
(look for more on www.distrowatch.com)

@LAZA
nspluginwrapper shouldn't be crashing Firefox anymore now that we have plugin-container.
Please don't encourage anyone to use the 64 bit flash at this point since it is no longer receiving security updates. Also, marketing another distro on a bug tracker is in bad taste.

@everyone
This meta-bug is no longer relavent. Anyone still having issues should please file a separate bug.

All of the crashes duped here are for a Firefox version that is no longer supported. Please file a new bug if you are still experiencing crashes.