halt and reboot should not be installed under the Hurd

Automatically imported from Debian bug report #255880
http://bugs.debian.org/255880

Message-ID: <email address hidden>
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 18:26:58 +0300
From: Ognyan Kulev <email address hidden>
To: <email address hidden>
Subject: halt and reboot should not be installed under the Hurd

Package: sysvinit
Version: 2.85-20
Tags: sid
Severity: important

This package includes "halt" and "reboot" commands. But under the Hurd,
these commands are provided by the hurd package. So when arhitecture is
hurd-i386, they shouldn't be installed. (For example, the Hurd has no
/dev/initctl.) As a workaround, "reboot -f" can be used.

I've set severity to important, because the only way to reboot Hurd
system becomes "reboot -f" which is not trivially guessed.
(Ctrl-Alt-Del doesn't work.)

Regards,
ogi

Message-ID: <email address hidden>
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 18:41:26 +0300
From: Ognyan Kulev <email address hidden>
To: <email address hidden>
Subject: policy violation

severity 255880 serious
thanks

Although I can't cite Debian Policy, surely one file can't be in 2
packages without dpkg-divert or something like that. So it's policy bug.

Regards,
ogi

Message-ID: <email address hidden>
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 21:17:31 +0300
From: Ognyan Kulev <email address hidden>
To: "Alfred M. Szmidt" <email address hidden>
CC: <email address hidden>, <email address hidden>
Subject: Re: reboot complains about /dev/initctl

/* Cc: <email address hidden> */

Alfred M. Szmidt wrote:
> Recall that the ones in the Hurd don't do funky sysvinit magic.
> Infatc, reboot for us is essentially a call to reboot().

(Shame smiley here) I forgot about that (the funky sysvinit part).

Anyway, we need resolution about the sysvinit package and hurd-i386.

For the halt/reboot problem, one of the quickest solutions is to remove
halt and reboot from Debian's hurd package[1], and -f to be always
assumed for these commands in sysvinit package.

[1] Well, this requires synchronization with hurd package maintainers,
so the really quickest is sysvinit to not ship with halt and reboot.

Regards,
ogi

Message-ID: <email address hidden>
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 20:31:42 +0200
From: Marcus Brinkmann <email address hidden>
To: Ognyan Kulev <email address hidden>
Cc: "Alfred M. Szmidt" <email address hidden>, <email address hidden>,
 <email address hidden>
Subject: Re: reboot complains about /dev/initctl

At Wed, 23 Jun 2004 21:17:31 +0300,
Ognyan Kulev wrote:
>
> /* Cc: <email address hidden> */
>
> Alfred M. Szmidt wrote:
> > Recall that the ones in the Hurd don't do funky sysvinit magic.
> > Infatc, reboot for us is essentially a call to reboot().
>
> (Shame smiley here) I forgot about that (the funky sysvinit part).
>
> Anyway, we need resolution about the sysvinit package and hurd-i386.
>
> For the halt/reboot problem, one of the quickest solutions is to remove
> halt and reboot from Debian's hurd package[1], and -f to be always
> assumed for these commands in sysvinit package.
>
> [1] Well, this requires synchronization with hurd package maintainers,
> so the really quickest is sysvinit to not ship with halt and reboot.

Well, it's true that synchronization may be required. However, before you
can put an alternative into place, it must work. IE, the sysvinit
port must be thoroughly tested and confirmed to do what it's supposed
to do. This is just a general note, maybe it already does.

I am not sure it is necessary or even desirable to use reboot/halt
from sysvinit. I remember a time where users where discouraged from
running halt/reboot directly specifically because they didn't run the
scripts (even on GNU/Linux). The right way to shut down the system
was shutdown (-r or -h and "-t now" or so).

We will need our own initscripts package or whatever anyway, so if
calling reboot/halt from those scripts is a problem, than in our
version of the script we can adjust it wrt command line options (-f)
etc.

Thanks,
Marcus

Message-ID: <email address hidden>
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 20:04:48 +0300
From: Ognyan Kulev <email address hidden>
To: Marcus Brinkmann <email address hidden>
CC: "Alfred M. Szmidt" <email address hidden>, <email address hidden>,
 <email address hidden>
Subject: Re: reboot complains about /dev/initctl

Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> We will need our own initscripts package or whatever anyway, so if
> calling reboot/halt from those scripts is a problem, than in our
> version of the script we can adjust it wrt command line options (-f)
> etc.

Until such own initscripts package is made, is using sysvinit our goal?
  If not, then it's better to not include halt and reboot in sysvinit
when it's build for hurd-i386. If it is, halt and reboot should be
excluded from hurd, and sysvinit's halt and reboot should assume -f in
hurd-i386 (until someone patches things). In any case, sysvinit
packages provide things like update-rc.d and runlevel, which we need
until our own initscripts is cooked.

Regards,
ogi

This bug is hurd-specific

Message-Id: <1088414875.7370.130.camel@thanatos>
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 11:27:55 +0200
From: Thomas Hood <email address hidden>
To: <email address hidden>
Subject: Temporary downgrade

severity 255880 important
severity 256524 important
thanks

Temporary downgrade which will allow 2.85-22 to drop into sarge
tonight.
--
Thomas

Message-Id: <email address hidden>
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 09:49:55 -0400
From: Miquel van Smoorenburg <email address hidden>
To: <email address hidden>
Subject: Bug#255880: fixed in sysvinit 2.86-1

Source: sysvinit
Source-Version: 2.86-1

We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of
sysvinit, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive:

initscripts_2.86-1_i386.deb
  to pool/main/s/sysvinit/initscripts_2.86-1_i386.deb
sysv-rc_2.86-1_all.deb
  to pool/main/s/sysvinit/sysv-rc_2.86-1_all.deb
sysvinit_2.86-1.diff.gz
  to pool/main/s/sysvinit/sysvinit_2.86-1.diff.gz
sysvinit_2.86-1.dsc
  to pool/main/s/sysvinit/sysvinit_2.86-1.dsc
sysvinit_2.86-1_i386.deb
  to pool/main/s/sysvinit/sysvinit_2.86-1_i386.deb
sysvinit_2.86.orig.tar.gz
  to pool/main/s/sysvinit/sysvinit_2.86.orig.tar.gz

A summary of the changes between this version and the previous one is
attached.

Thank you for reporting the bug, which will now be closed. If you
have further comments please address them to <email address hidden>,
and the maintainer will reopen the bug report if appropriate.

Debian distribution maintenance software
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Miquel van Smoorenburg <email address hidden> (supplier of updated sysvinit package)

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Format: 1.7
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 14:17:05 +0200
Source: sysvinit
Binary: sysv-rc sysvinit initscripts
Architecture: source i386 all
Version: 2.86-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Miquel van Smoorenburg <email address hidden>
Changed-By: Miquel van Smoorenburg <email address hidden>
Description:
 initscripts - Standard scripts needed for booting and shutting down
 sysv-rc - Standard boot mechanism using symlinks in /etc/rc?.d
 sysvinit - System-V like init
Closes: 244908 248210 250089 255303 255820 255849 255880 256726 258065 259971 259979 261342
Changes:
 sysvinit (2.86-1) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   * Better algorithm for pidof (closes: #248210)
   * Include fsck.nfs.8 (closes: #250089)
   * Include new skeleton script (closes: #244908)
   * Better error message on failure to find path to mtab (closes: #255820)
   * Add support for fstype ncp (alias for ncpfs) (closes: #259971)
   * Touch /tmp/.clean earlier (closes: #255303)
   * Don't include halt and reboot for hurd-i386 (closes: #255880)
   * Remove XSIisms in mountvirtfs and invoke-rc.d (closes: #256726)
   * Add "-t $roottype" to mount -f for / (closes: #255849)
   * Always initialize PATH (to /bin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin) (closes: #258065)
   * Try harder to remount ro and rw (closes: #259979)
   * Add support for LABEL=/UUID= in checkroot.sh (closes: #261342)
Files:
 cbb7b8ffd2d05103087d26fc84c3300e 643 base required sysvinit_2.86-1.dsc
 e27bd78e92443b59d743f261f4a51f57 182051 base required sysvinit_2.86.orig.tar.gz
 73803f3b8d7bb4bc3d4ac9589c8b2ff6 58956 base required sysvinit_2.86-1.diff.gz
 5916bdf9469cca6a46e3538f32c5b678 96740 base required sysvinit_2.86-1_i386.deb
 f9e19cb06699c3879cb55013288f190f 2...

Fixed in syslinux 2.86-1 in Debian.