[MIR] empathy dependencies

This needs some deeper fixing. CDs still don't build:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  libgstfarsight0.10-0: Depends: libnice0 (>= 0.0.6) but it is not installable
                        Depends: gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad (>= 0.10.11) but it is not installable
                        Depends: gstreamer0.10-nice but it is not installable

-plugins-bad pulls in a big set of further dependencies, none of which are very appropriate in main, and they would also take a lot of CD space. Look at current http://people.ubuntu.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.txt . Is it possible to strip down the dependencies of farsight, or reorganize the gstreamer packages in a way to move the required codecs into -plugins-good?

I reverted empathy -> pidgin in the desktop seed again, to unbreak CD builds.

With pidgin back in ubuntu-meta, this isn't an alpha-3 blocker any more. Should still be fixed ASAP, to get as much testing as possible.

gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad should be removed from farsight dependencies because that conflicts with anyone who has or tries to install the fluendo codec pack

We need to work with the gstreamer guys to get rtpmanager and liveadder moved to -good. Upstream telepathy developers think at least rtpmanager should be in -good. I am checking with upstream gstreamer.

Can you link this bug to upstream gstreamer?

On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 16:40, Ken VanDine <email address hidden>wrote:

> We need to work with the gstreamer guys to get rtpmanager and liveadder
> moved to -good. Upstream telepathy developers think at least rtpmanager
> should be in -good. I am checking with upstream gstreamer.
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Fixed? Great! How'd it get worked out?

I was just to quick in closing this bug sorry :o

Fixed? Great! How'd it get worked out?

Oops, don't know how that got posted again. Anyways, does the fix by removing the dependency or move things to plugins-good?

Removing the dependency is not possible as it will break things :/

So what was the fix?

Upstream Gstreamer bugs--
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=521625
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=587219

libnice also need to be moved to main

debdiff adding the required plugins to gst-plugins-good

debdiff removing the plugins from gst-plugins-bad that have been moved to gst-plugins-good

Both -good and -bad should be uploaded at the same time to prevent conflicts

So when will we see Empathy instead of Pidgin and Ekiga on the daily live cds?

Have these changes been coordinated with debian?

Ken, I added this to control.in to not break upgrades:

Conflicts: gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad (<< 0.10.13-1ubuntu1)
Replaces: gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad (<< 0.10.13-1ubuntu1)

(The replaces was already there, I just bumped the version). Please do that in the future for similar updates, when stuff moves between packages.

Ken, I added this to control.in to not break upgrades:

Conflicts: gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad (<< 0.10.13-1ubuntu1)
Replaces: gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad (<< 0.10.13-1ubuntu1)

(The replaces was already there, I just bumped the version). Please do that in the future for similar updates, when stuff moves between packages.

farsight2 still needs a MIR written.

telepathy-farsight needs MIR.

This doesn't affect the gstreamer0.10 package, invalidating task.

libnice needs MIR to be written.

This bug was fixed in the package gst-plugins-good0.10 - 0.10.15-2ubuntu1

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gst-plugins-good0.10 (0.10.15-2ubuntu1) karmic; urgency=low

  * debian/patches/04_move_farsight_plugins_to_good.patch
    - Move farsight related plugins to -good (LP: #388898)
  * debian/gstreamer-plugins-good.install
    - Added plugins needed for farsight
      - libgstdtmf.so
      - libgstvalve.so
      - libgstautoconvert.so
      - libgstrtpmux.so
      - libgstliveadder.so
      - libgstrtpmanager.so
  * debian/control.in
    - Bump Standards-Version to 3.8.2

 -- Ken VanDine <email address hidden> Wed, 01 Jul 2009 14:58:32 -0400

gst-plugins-bad0.10 (0.10.13-1ubuntu1) karmic; urgency=low

  * debian/gstreamer-plugins-bad.install
    - Removed plugins that are now provided -good (LP #388898)
      - libgstdtmf.so
      - libgstvalve.so
      - libgstautoconvert.so
      - libgstrtpmux.so
      - libgstliveadder.so
      - libgstrtpmanager.so
  * debian/control.in
    - Bump Standards-Version to 3.8.2

 -- Ken VanDine <email address hidden> Wed, 01 Jul 2009 16:02:18 -0400

With the moving of the required codecs to -good, we won't move -bad to main.

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionReport/TelepathyFarsight

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionReport/Farsight2

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionReport/LibNice

Won't promote farsight2 as long as that still pulls in -bad:

Package: libgstfarsight0.10-0
Depends: [...] gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad (>= 0.10.11)

I think this dependency might be moot now, since the codecs moved to -good?

I think too. I will upload a new version soon

oh right farsight2 is already in main cannot upload :/

I fixed the dependency. This should clean most of the noise in component-mismatches:

farsight2 (0.0.12-1ubuntu1) karmic; urgency=low

  * debian/control: Drop gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad dependency, the codecs
    moved to -good. (see LP #388898)

 -- Martin Pitt <email address hidden> Fri, 03 Jul 2009 13:16:37 +0200

maybe interesting to bump the version of gstreamer0.10-plugins-good to 0.10.15-2ubuntu1

libnice approved and promoted. Nice and small, and well-packaged.

Laurent, indeed, thanks for spotting.

farsight2 (0.0.12-1ubuntu2) karmic; urgency=low

  * debian/control: Bump dependency to -good to >= 0.10.15-2ubuntu1 to ensure
    necessary codec support.

 -- Martin Pitt <email address hidden> Fri, 03 Jul 2009 13:45:43 +0200

@martin do we want upnp support in libnice? I've packages gupnp-idg in debian but it still stuck in new queue I could maybe upload it directly in ubuntu (but it will be a new dependendy for libnice)

Laurent Bigonville [2009-07-03 12:59 -0000]:
> @martin do we want upnp support in libnice? I've packages gupnp-idg in
> debian but it still stuck in new queue I could maybe upload it directly
> in ubuntu (but it will be a new dependendy for libnice)

-> Ken?

libempathy-gtk24 pulls in geoclue (Depends:) and geoclue-hostip, geoclue-localnet, geoclue-manual (Recommends). So this either needs an MIR, or dropped.

geoclue itself needs to be fixed to not pull in glib 1.2 (!), its build dep on libglib-dev is probably just misnamed. If you fix this, please send to Debian as well. Thanks!

Closing gstreamer upstream task for this MIR bug

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionReportPythonPapyon approved and promoted

telepathy-butterfly approved and promoted.

I'll upload empathy with the recommends re-added now.

Great! :)

What the status of gupnp-igd for main inclusion?

Laurent Bigonville [2009-09-10 14:13 -0000]:
> What the status of gupnp-igd for main inclusion?

Ken said he'd talk to upstream today to figure out how this works. He
tried a local build, with the result that "this only serves to make it
fail faster". Still on the radar, though.

MIR wiki page for gupnp-igd is at:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionReport/Gupnpigd

gupnp-igd fixed to run test suite on build, approved.

gssdp approved. Package has test programs, but they can't be run automatically and noninteractively, and require network, so they aren't suitable to run at build time.

gupnp approved and promoted (together with gssdp and gupnp-igd). Same test program situation as with gssdp.

Would it be too hard to get geoloc so it can be supported in Ubuntu?

On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 7:07 AM, Martin Pitt <email address hidden> wrote:
> gupnp approved and promoted (together with gssdp and gupnp-igd). Same
> test program situation as with gssdp.
>
> ** Changed in: gupnp (Ubuntu Karmic)
>       Status: New => Fix Released
>
> ** Changed in: gssdp (Ubuntu Karmic)
>       Status: Fix Committed => Fix Released
>
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Not hard, but we aren't ready for that. Enabling geoclue in empathy will drag clutter onto the CD. Perhaps for karmic+1

that's quite disappointing for people who want to use geoclue and will actively use the PPA to get it because most of our buddies won't have it =[

Ok Kevin, Thats fine. Is there a place I can list to make sure
geoclue gets added to empathy for Karmic+1?

New bug?

~Brian

On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 6:24 PM, Ken VanDine <email address hidden> wrote:
> Not hard, but we aren't ready for that.  Enabling geoclue in empathy
> will drag clutter onto the CD.  Perhaps for karmic+1
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File a new bug against the empathy package and we will mark it as wishlist. I would really like to enable it and I suspect there will be enough stuff needing clutter for karmic+1 that it won't be an issue.

It would be nice of some things like this could be an optional dep for empathy, like a plugin architecture. So it doesn't require uses get empathy from a ppa, just install the right plugin package to enable the feature.

Kevin,

I mentioned this to some people before, but I don't have the skills
myself to write something like this, and I think it would benefit the
CD size too.

Just like using the music/video programs will tell you that you need a
codec and it will download it for you. I imagine doing something like
this for the telepathy connection managers (butterfly,haze,idle,
etc..) would take space off of the CD for other more important things.
 Maybe also resolve bugs in which someones CM isn't installed by
default with empathy.

Workflow:
-user installs empathy or creates new account
-code recognizes that user doesn't have telepathy-* and asks the user
to download applicable ones.
-upon removal of account package manager recognizes it's not used
anymore and upon next autoremove will delete the package.

~Brian

On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Ken VanDine <email address hidden> wrote:
> File a new bug against the empathy package and we will mark it as
> wishlist.  I would really like to enable it and I suspect there will be
> enough stuff needing clutter for karmic+1 that it won't be an issue.
>
> It would be nice of some things like this could be an optional dep for
> empathy, like a plugin architecture.  So it doesn't require uses get
> empathy from a ppa, just install the right plugin package to enable the
> feature.
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