No nebula images

Tell me about your graphics card. Who makes it? And model number? And what O/S ?

Intel G965 Express video card, running on an intel motherboard (generic computer) and Windows 7 Enterprise.
The exact same software is running fine on our workstations here, so I know there is nothing wrong with the program itself. Just my PC giving me problems.
Thanks
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: <email address hidden> [mailto:<email address hidden>] On Behalf Of Keatah
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 1:23 AM
To: Chris Dunkle
Subject: [Bug 1051038] Re: No nebula images

Tell me about your graphics card. Who makes it? And model number? And what O/S ?

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Title:
  No nebula images

Status in Stellarium:
  New

Bug description:
  When zooming in on any nebula I get no image, just stars. I have re-
  installed it with no changes. Planets appear normally, but nebulae do
  not seem to exist. I made sure png files were there, tried running
  Stellarium with different options, nothing gets the nebulae back.

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Alright, you can try changing the flipping policy. Make sure it is set to BLIT. It solved the problem on my system. This is how you do it -- http://www.intel.com/support/graphics/sb/CS-030506.htm

If this "breaks" any other programs, or causes slowdowns or graphical corruptions, just set it back to FLIP. No harm done. I toggle this setting all the time when running ill-tempered software.

Things I was reading:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bit_blit
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blitter
http://www.opengl.org/wiki/Framebuffer_Object#Framebuffer_Completeness
http://www.opengl.org/discussion_boards/showthread.php/134669-Buffer-Flipping-Mode-Block-Transfer

Changed the Flipping Policy to Blit, solved the problem.
You rock!
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: <email address hidden> [mailto:<email address hidden>] On Behalf Of Keatah
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 11:24 AM
To: Chris Dunkle
Subject: [Bug 1051038] Re: No nebula images

Alright, you can try changing the flipping policy. Make sure it is set to BLIT. It solved the problem on my system. This is how you do it -- http://www.intel.com/support/graphics/sb/CS-030506.htm

If this "breaks" any other programs, or causes slowdowns or graphical corruptions, just set it back to FLIP. No harm done. I toggle this setting all the time when running ill-tempered software.

Things I was reading:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bit_blit
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blitter
http://www.opengl.org/wiki/Framebuffer_Object#Framebuffer_Completeness
http://www.opengl.org/discussion_boards/showthread.php/134669-Buffer-Flipping-Mode-Block-Transfer

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Title:
  No nebula images

Status in Stellarium:
  Incomplete

Bug description:
  When zooming in on any nebula I get no image, just stars. I have re-
  installed it with no changes. Planets appear normally, but nebulae do
  not seem to exist. I made sure png files were there, tried running
  Stellarium with different options, nothing gets the nebulae back.

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That's great! Keep in mind this is what I call an unofficial workaround - unless the developers (I am not one) sanction it.

My reasoning is that the newer QT libraries in conjunction with modern day programming methods conspire against 10 year old hardware & drivers. These intel graphics chips were laid out in the late 1990's beginning with the end of the i740; and still retain quite a bit of that original architecture today. Whilst their CPU's have improved rather consistently throughout time, their graphics chips have not.

Intel are typically 4 or 5 years behind the current GPU's from the likes of NVIDIA and AMD. Intel graphics are however more stable, especially their drivers. I rarely need to update intel drivers, but with NVIDIA it's a constant battle every month. And along with "business-class stability" comes pedestrian performance. And you guessed it! No automatic BLIT or FLIP selection. You do it manually. You walk to and from school, both ways, uphill. Things are getting better though and intel has a bus pass with their next graphics architecture.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel740
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_GMA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Intel_graphics_processing_units#Early_graphics

I also found that making these lines like so -

flag_use_ext_framebuffer_object = true
flag_use_gl_point_sprite = true

- could also help out the problem. And failing that, exit and restart Stellarium. I just had a chance to test it out on a system where the FLIP/BLIT option change didn't work 100% of the time.

Eventually you'll see your nebulas!

Thanks again. I will give that a try.
Chris

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From: Keatah <email address hidden>
Sent: Tue, 02/10/2012 09:15 PM
To: Chris Dunkle <email address hidden>
Subject: [Bug 1051038] Re: No nebula images

I also found that making these lines like so -

flag_use_ext_framebuffer_object = true
flag_use_gl_point_sprite = true

- could also help out the problem. And failing that, exit and restart
Stellarium. I just had a chance to test it out on a system where the
FLIP/BLIT option change didn't work 100% of the time.

Eventually you'll see your nebulas!

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Title:
  No nebula images

Status in Stellarium:
  Confirmed

Bug description:
  When zooming in on any nebula I get no image, just stars. I have re-
  installed it with no changes. Planets appear normally, but nebulae do
  not seem to exist. I made sure png files were there, tried running
  Stellarium with different options, nothing gets the nebulae back.

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There is a screen shot. I'm thinking of upgrading the video card... Oh yeah, school computer...
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: <email address hidden> [mailto:<email address hidden>] On Behalf Of Keatah
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 9:07 PM
To: Chris Dunkle
Subject: [Bug 1051038] Re: No nebula images

I also found that making these lines like so -

flag_use_ext_framebuffer_object = true
flag_use_gl_point_sprite = true

- could also help out the problem. And failing that, exit and restart Stellarium. I just had a chance to test it out on a system where the FLIP/BLIT option change didn't work 100% of the time.

Eventually you'll see your nebulas!

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Title:
  No nebula images

Status in Stellarium:
  Confirmed

Bug description:
  When zooming in on any nebula I get no image, just stars. I have re-
  installed it with no changes. Planets appear normally, but nebulae do
  not seem to exist. I made sure png files were there, tried running
  Stellarium with different options, nothing gets the nebulae back.

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Please show Stellarium's config.ini

Cheers,
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: <email address hidden> [mailto:<email address hidden>] On Behalf Of Alexander Wolf
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 10:56 AM
To: Chris Dunkle
Subject: [Bug 1051038] Re: No nebula images

Please show Stellarium's config.ini

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Title:
  No nebula images

Status in Stellarium:
  Confirmed

Bug description:
  When zooming in on any nebula I get no image, just stars. I have re-
  installed it with no changes. Planets appear normally, but nebulae do
  not seem to exist. I made sure png files were there, tried running
  Stellarium with different options, nothing gets the nebulae back.

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I need config.ini, not default_config.ini

I have the same issue, but my PC doesn't use an Intel Graphic card, but an nVidia one, so your previous solution did not apply to me.
I noticed that the issue disappears if I install an older version of Stellarium (for example, the 0.11.3). If I upgrade the software, the issue appears again.

So it seems a problem linked to the 0.11.4 (32-bit) version. I am on a Windows 7 platform (32bit).

Forgot: with no-OpenGL setting, it works.

It seems that the 32 bit version is affected by the bug; the 64-bit version is not. But the 64 bit version has the core.wait() bug... so I hope there is a workaround for the nebula issue!

Finally, I found the workaround! For some reason, the 32-bit installer copies the "libiconv-2.dll" library instead of the correct name "libiconv2.dll". So you just have to rename the "libiconv-2.dll" to "libiconv2.dll" in Stellarium installation path (i.e. C:\Programs Files (x86)\Stellarium).

In the next release, you should correct this. For me, it works!

Where is it? I can find no file named config.ini anywhere in the Stellarium folder in Program Files.
Thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: <email address hidden> [mailto:<email address hidden>] On Behalf Of Alexander Wolf
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 11:15 PM
To: Chris Dunkle
Subject: [Bug 1051038] Re: No nebula images

I need config.ini, not default_config.ini

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Title:
  No nebula images

Status in Stellarium:
  Confirmed

Bug description:
  When zooming in on any nebula I get no image, just stars. I have re-
  installed it with no changes. Planets appear normally, but nebulae do
  not seem to exist. I made sure png files were there, tried running
  Stellarium with different options, nothing gets the nebulae back.

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That fixed it real good, Stellarium will not run if you rename it in that fashion.
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: <email address hidden> [mailto:<email address hidden>] On Behalf Of Marc O'Reilly
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 5:45 AM
To: Chris Dunkle
Subject: [Bug 1051038] Re: No nebula images

Finally, I found the workaround! For some reason, the 32-bit installer copies the "libiconv-2.dll" library instead of the correct name "libiconv2.dll". So you just have to rename the "libiconv-2.dll" to "libiconv2.dll" in Stellarium installation path (i.e. C:\Programs Files (x86)\Stellarium).

In the next release, you should correct this. For me, it works!

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Title:
  No nebula images

Status in Stellarium:
  Confirmed

Bug description:
  When zooming in on any nebula I get no image, just stars. I have re-
  installed it with no changes. Planets appear normally, but nebulae do
  not seem to exist. I made sure png files were there, tried running
  Stellarium with different options, nothing gets the nebulae back.

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You can found config.ini in User Directory - http://www.stellarium.org/wiki/index.php/Advanced_Use#Files_and_Directories

Ah, found it. Wasn't easy though.
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: <email address hidden> [mailto:<email address hidden>] On Behalf Of Alexander Wolf
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 9:05 AM
To: Chris Dunkle
Subject: [Bug 1051038] Re: No nebula images

You can found config.ini in User Directory - http://www.stellarium.org/wiki/index.php/Advanced_Use#Files_and_Directories

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Title:
  No nebula images

Status in Stellarium:
  Confirmed

Bug description:
  When zooming in on any nebula I get no image, just stars. I have re-
  installed it with no changes. Planets appear normally, but nebulae do
  not seem to exist. I made sure png files were there, tried running
  Stellarium with different options, nothing gets the nebulae back.

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There you go. It was in Users\chrisdunkle\AppData\Roaming\Stellarium

-----Original Message-----
From: <email address hidden> [mailto:<email address hidden>] On Behalf Of Alexander Wolf
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 9:05 AM
To: Chris Dunkle
Subject: [Bug 1051038] Re: No nebula images

You can found config.ini in User Directory - http://www.stellarium.org/wiki/index.php/Advanced_Use#Files_and_Directories

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Title:
  No nebula images

Status in Stellarium:
  Confirmed

Bug description:
  When zooming in on any nebula I get no image, just stars. I have re-
  installed it with no changes. Planets appear normally, but nebulae do
  not seem to exist. I made sure png files were there, tried running
  Stellarium with different options, nothing gets the nebulae back.

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I see the nebula but they're offset about 45-degrees to the right of the actual stars they correspond to.
I'm using Stellarium 0.11.4 32-bit on a Dell Core i7, Windows 7 x64, with an NVidia 630 graphics card.
 I'm going to try Stellarium for 64-bit Windows instead.

Solved! I can confirm that using the 64-bit version of Stellarium on 64-bit Windows 7 has solved my problem with the nebulae appearing in the wrong positions.

That's nice. I am running 32-bit Windows. Will the 64-bit version work on that?
Chris (who can't see any nebula image on that screen shot...)

-----Original Message-----
From: <email address hidden> [mailto:<email address hidden>] On Behalf Of Ken Colangelo
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 3:48 PM
To: Chris Dunkle
Subject: [Bug 1051038] Re: No nebula images

Solved! I can confirm that using the 64-bit version of Stellarium on 64-bit Windows 7 has solved my problem with the nebulae appearing in the wrong positions.

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Title:
  No nebula images

Status in Stellarium:
  Confirmed

Bug description:
  When zooming in on any nebula I get no image, just stars. I have re-
  installed it with no changes. Planets appear normally, but nebulae do
  not seem to exist. I made sure png files were there, tried running
  Stellarium with different options, nothing gets the nebulae back.

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What you're describing would be a separate issue than the one in this thread. I would suggest you open a new bug report if you want it to get the proper attention.

64-bit Stellarium will require 64-bit o/s and hardware to match.

I have the same problem too.
I used Stellarium 0.11.4 and could not see any nebula and galaxy image.

So I tried the beta version 0.12.0dev5,
it solved the problem.
Now I can see nebula and galaxy images.
Here is the screenshot:
http://image.free.in.th/z/ih/andromeda_galaxy_0120dev5.jpg

You can download Stellarium 0.12.0dev5 from here:
http://sourceforge.net/p/stellarium/news/2012/11/stellarium-0120dev5-available-for-testing/

My specifications:
Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit
Processor: Intel Pentium Dual T2390
RAM: 3 GB
Graphic: Mobile Intel 965 Express Chipset

That did the trick! I now have nebulas to look at.
Thank you so much.
Not only is Stellarium a great piece of software, the support is outstanding as well.
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: <email address hidden> [mailto:<email address hidden>] On Behalf Of Phongsathon Kitchawet
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2012 7:48 PM
To: Chris Dunkle
Subject: [Bug 1051038] Re: No nebula images

I have the same problem too.
I used Stellarium 0.11.4 and could not see any nebula and galaxy image.

So I tried the beta version 0.12.0dev5, it solved the problem.
Now I can see nebula and galaxy images.
Here is the screenshot:
http://image.free.in.th/z/ih/andromeda_galaxy_0120dev5.jpg

You can download Stellarium 0.12.0dev5 from here:
http://sourceforge.net/p/stellarium/news/2012/11/stellarium-0120dev5-available-for-testing/

My specifications:
Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit
Processor: Intel Pentium Dual T2390
RAM: 3 GB
Graphic: Mobile Intel 965 Express Chipset

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Title:
  No nebula images

Status in Stellarium:
  Confirmed

Bug description:
  When zooming in on any nebula I get no image, just stars. I have re-
  installed it with no changes. Planets appear normally, but nebulae do
  not seem to exist. I made sure png files were there, tried running
  Stellarium with different options, nothing gets the nebulae back.

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The new rendering system works for me.

Beta version 12 solved the problem.
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: <email address hidden> [mailto:<email address hidden>] On Behalf Of Keatah
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 3:50 PM
To: Chris Dunkle
Subject: [Bug 1051038] Re: No nebula images

The new rendering system works for me.

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Title:
  No nebula images

Status in Stellarium:
  Confirmed

Bug description:
  When zooming in on any nebula I get no image, just stars. I have re-
  installed it with no changes. Planets appear normally, but nebulae do
  not seem to exist. I made sure png files were there, tried running
  Stellarium with different options, nothing gets the nebulae back.

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You can go back to the version 0.11.3. There is no this problem. :)

Just a note: this bug was related to new libiconv version (need for gettext 0.18).

Now the latest version 0.12.0 solved this bug. Thanks. :)

Nicely done! I can see me following Stellarium for years to come.

Is it possibile to get just the patch that solves this issue? I need to use the 0.11.4 32 bit version, but I'm interested only in solving this bug. I cannot install 64 bit version or newer version of Stellarium...