package texlive-formats-extra None failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite `/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/latexconfig/mllatex.ini', which is also in package texlive-latex-base

On Mo, 04 Feb 2008, Reiner Jung wrote:
> ErrorMessage: trying to overwrite `/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/latexconfig/mllatex.ini', which is also in package texlive-latex-base
> Package: texlive-formats-extra None

Fixed in Debian packages version whatever, there is/was a missing
Replace: ..., please pull from Debian.

Best wishes

Norbert

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Hi Norbert,

Which package should we pull? This bug happened when upgrading texlive-formats-extra (src:texlive-extra) from 2007-3 to 2007.dfsg.1-1, and Debian unstable also has texlive-extra 2007.dfsg.1-1.

Okay, I think I can identify the problem now.

In gutsy, /usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/latexconfig/mllatex.ini is shipped in texlive-latex-base (src:texlive-base) 2007-10; In hardy, this file is moved to texlive-formats-extra. No Replaces seems to exist in the Debian unstable, and it apparently isn't a big deal for Debian now (testing already has texlive-base 2007-13).

Norbert, is it possible to add proper Replaces for Debian's texlive-formats-extra package? Or is Ubuntu on its own here?

Hi,

On Mi, 06 Feb 2008, Ming Hua wrote:
> shipped in texlive-latex-base (src:texlive-base) 2007-10; In hardy,
> this file is moved to texlive-formats-extra. No Replaces seems to exist
> in the Debian unstable, and it apparently isn't a big deal for Debian
> now (testing already has texlive-base 2007-13).

Yes, I didn't introduce them because I uploaded the respective versions
of -base and -extra at the same time, and ignored the problem that it
takes different time to enter testing.

> Norbert, is it possible to add proper Replaces for Debian's texlive-
> formats-extra package? Or is Ubuntu on its own here?

If you prefer I can add a Replaces, but is it really useful now? It is
only for the development version, right?

Anyway, tell me and I will add it to the Debian pacakges next upload.

Best wishes

Norbert

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On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 06:42:02PM -0000, Norbert Preining wrote:
>
> On Mi, 06 Feb 2008, Ming Hua wrote:
>
> > shipped in texlive-latex-base (src:texlive-base) 2007-10; In hardy,
> > this file is moved to texlive-formats-extra. No Replaces seems to exist
> > in the Debian unstable, and it apparently isn't a big deal for Debian
> > now (testing already has texlive-base 2007-13).
>
> Yes, I didn't introduce them because I uploaded the respective versions
> of -base and -extra at the same time, and ignored the problem that it
> takes different time to enter testing.

This is tangent to the bug at hand, but I think it doesn't really matter
when those packages enters testing. My understanding is that when you
uploaded those two packages at the the same time, the upgrade path in
unstable is immediately broken. Although broken upgrade in unstable
only is usually not a big problem.

> > Norbert, is it possible to add proper Replaces for Debian's texlive-
> > formats-extra package? Or is Ubuntu on its own here?
>
> If you prefer I can add a Replaces, but is it really useful now? It is
> only for the development version, right?

No, Ubuntu 7.10 (gutsy) was released with texlive-base 2007-10.

> Anyway, tell me and I will add it to the Debian pacakges next upload.

We need this Replaces relation for a smooth gutsy->hardy upgrade. So if
you can add it to the Debian texlive-formats-extra package (though I
don't what exact version of texlive-latex-base it should replace), it
would be very helpful.

Ming
2008.02.09

On Sa, 09 Feb 2008, Ming Hua wrote:
> when those packages enters testing. My understanding is that when you
> uploaded those two packages at the the same time, the upgrade path in
> unstable is immediately broken. Although broken upgrade in unstable

No it wasn't, because normally the packages were installed at the same
time. Anyway.

> We need this Replaces relation for a smooth gutsy->hardy upgrade. So if

Good argument. I have added
 texlive-formats-extra replaces texlive-latex-base (<= 2007-10)
that should do it for gutsy, right?

Best wishes

Norbert

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On Sat, Feb 09, 2008 at 10:01:04AM -0000, Norbert Preining wrote:
> On Sa, 09 Feb 2008, Ming Hua wrote:
>
> > when those packages enters testing. My understanding is that when you
> > uploaded those two packages at the the same time, the upgrade path in
> > unstable is immediately broken. Although broken upgrade in unstable
>
> No it wasn't, because normally the packages were installed at the same
> time. Anyway.

Hmm, I see that texlive-formats-extra depends on texlive-latex-base (>=
2007-11), so yeah, they need to be upgraded at the same time. I think
the problem here is that during upgrade, texlive-formats-extra is
unpacked before texlive-latex-base is unpacked (this is possible because
dependency is only required to be satified when configure happens,
which is after unpacking). Therefore, a Replaces is still desired
because it make sure the upgrade succeeds.

> > We need this Replaces relation for a smooth gutsy->hardy upgrade. So
>
> Good argument. I have added
> texlive-formats-extra replaces texlive-latex-base (<= 2007-10)
> that should do it for gutsy, right?

Yes, looks correct to me. Thanks!

Ming
2008.02.09

 texlive-extra (2007.dfsg.1-2) unstable; urgency=low

   * let -formats-extra replace -latex-base (<= 2007-10) to make
     smooth upgrades in Ubuntu (gutsy->hardy) possible (Closes Ubuntu
     bug 188910) [np]

 -- Norbert Preining <email address hidden> Fri, 25 Apr 2008 23:39:03 +0200

I believe this qualifies for a Stable Release Update for hardy, subscribing the ubuntu-sru team.

Newer version is in intrepid, so it should be fixed there. Thanks, Norbert!

Indeed this is a nice SRU (although it comes with a basically no-op upgrade for users who already have it installed, at the expense of a huge download.) Pascal, do you want to own this SRU? (preparing patch, do the testing) I can help out with sponsoring.

Hardy has seen the end of its life and is no longer receiving any updates. Marking the Hardy task for this ticket as "Won't Fix".