[kubuntu] OOo KDE file dialog is utterly broken.

Bug #424132 reported by Sean Hunt
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This bug affects 33 people
Affects Status Importance Assigned to Milestone
Gentoo Linux
Invalid
Undecided
Unassigned
kubuntu-meta (Ubuntu)
Invalid
Undecided
Unassigned
Karmic
Invalid
Undecided
Unassigned
openoffice.org (Ubuntu)
Fix Released
Medium
Roman Shtylman
Karmic
Fix Released
Medium
Roman Shtylman
openoffice.org (openSUSE)
Fix Released
Medium

Bug Description

OO.org successfully uses the KDE file dialog, however, it's very broken. Some issues:

 - The default directory is one higher in the hierarchy than it should be (for instance, it starts in /home. After you save, the next save defaults to one directory above that)
 - Automatic file extensions don't work
 - Some buttons (like 'New folder') are missing
 - The checkboxes below the file picker widget have no text
 - The settings menu has no text.

affects: ubuntu → openoffice.org (Ubuntu)
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Christian Schürer-Waldheim (quincunx) wrote :

I can confirm that this problem exists.

Changed in openoffice.org (Ubuntu):
status: New → Confirmed
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Christian Schürer-Waldheim (quincunx) wrote :

I've made a screenshot showing the file dialog. There are some selection options without caption and the menu too has no text. Is this maybe a translation problem?

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Christian Schürer-Waldheim (quincunx) wrote :

I'm assigning this bug to kubuntu-meta too as it's recommended by kubuntu-desktop, thus probably causing problems and confusion to many users when it is installed and enabled by default.

tags: added: regression-potential
Changed in openoffice.org (Ubuntu):
assignee: nobody → Roman Shtylman (shtylman)
importance: Undecided → Critical
milestone: none → ubuntu-9.10
Changed in kubuntu-meta (Ubuntu):
status: New → Invalid
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Roman Shtylman (shtylman) wrote :

There is a patch/fix someone else has been working on. The patches are close to being done (afaik) and once they are in the go-oo git repo it will be a matter of pulling them from there or the debian packages.

There is also a few upstream bugs related to the file picker:
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=535944

If we reach alpha6 and the patches still haven't been integrated into go-oo I will poke the dev and see if I can begin merging them in for some of these fixes.

~Roman

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Sanjaya Karunasena (sanjayak) wrote :

I also confirm this bug. Please give it little high priority. As a workaround I have removed openoffice.org-kde and just using the oxygen style (openoffice.org-style-oxygen).

Chris Cheney (ccheney)
summary: - KDE file dialog is utterly broken.
+ [kubuntu] OOo KDE file dialog is utterly broken.
Chris Cheney (ccheney)
Changed in openoffice.org (Ubuntu):
milestone: ubuntu-9.10 → ubuntu-9.10-beta
Changed in openoffice.org (openSUSE):
status: Unknown → Confirmed
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Mark (mark-wege) wrote :

I have encoutered following bug in the KDE file dialogue. Trying to move a file via drag and drop in the file dialogue from a folder onto one of the places causes a crash of openoffice.org

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zigi (ziegleka) wrote :

+ path names containing # (may be other special characters) can't be used, it ends with error: file does not exist

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Jeppe Bundsgaard (jeppe) wrote :

I think this problem is connected:
When trying to export a drawing as an image file from Draw, there is no filters available (the Filters drop down says "All files").
The only export option I have is through "Export as pdf" in the Files menu.

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Jeppe Bundsgaard (jeppe) wrote :

Two further problems:
- The file dialog is extremely slow when surfing through the directories
- When inserting an image in a Writer text, the All image formats does not recognize any files - thus for example I have to select the specific file format (PNG) in the type-drop down to be able to see the PNG-files.

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Rigo Wenning (rigo-w3) wrote :

In alpha4 I have the problem that the file dialog is taking several seconds to react on a click. Looking at top, I see many file dialogs open using lots of memory without actually having a window. Confirm that trying to add something to places crashes openoffice. I tested the Jaunty version and there Openoffice 3 still uses a KDE3 file dialog that works.

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Murz (murznn) wrote :

In openoffice-kde package for karmic (1:3.1.1-2ubuntu3 amd64), updated today, it goes to save an open files normally via kde4 file picker, it automatically add extensions to filename!

Changed in openoffice.org (Ubuntu Karmic):
milestone: ubuntu-9.10-beta → ubuntu-9.10
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Christian Schürer-Waldheim (quincunx) wrote :

Yes, the extension is added now on save, but the other issues are still there (e.g. menus without text, select boxes without text, ...)

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Ulrich Lukas (ulrich-lukas) wrote :

Update as of today, openoffice.org 3.1.1-2ubuntu4: menus, boxes still without text. Same for the file -> export menu (for xhtml export etc.)

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E.T. Anderson (firebringer11) wrote :

I have also had this experience, and a few others that I think are related to the openoffice.org-kde package. With the KDE integration installed in the karmic beta, I cannot add images to Impress slideshows using the menu item. A dialog comes up and I can select an image, but the dialog blinks (disappears and comes back) and does not add an image.
I also cannot set a background image because of the same problem. Impress is unable to "Save image as" and cannot export a slide to an image file. Once I removed the KDE integration package, all these problems went away.
When saving as M$ ppt, I have to manually add the extension, but not when saving as odp.

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Murz (murznn) wrote :

I have found a new small issue on KDE & Karmic Beta:
When I try to "Save as" file with dots in filename in another format, kde dialog cuts the filename to the first dot.
For example, I try to save "my.file.example.odt" as "my.file.example.doc", I press "Save as" and see only "my" in filename.
Please test and add it to the Bug Description.

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b2ag (thomas-b2ag) wrote :

After updating Jaunty to Karmic Beta the save dialog is crashing my OpenOffice (Impress and Writer) continuously. After i used the open dialog for the first time (after updating), the open dialog doesn't crash my OO and seemed to had fixed the problem with the save dialog for me. Nevertheless both dialogs where utterly broken and after a short time the problem returned. Now both dialogs crashing OO.

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b2ag (thomas-b2ag) wrote :

I forget to mention that this problem don't exists for another (freshly created) user on my system.
Using OO without "openoffice.org-kde" package works fine (but looks ugly).

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Roman Shtylman (shtylman) wrote :

A quick update on the progress I have been making to fix this bug. Some of my fixes have already landed and others I am still finishing up a few things with and will have the patches for the package maintainer very soon.

B: After saving and then trying to save again the directory is different (one higher)
 - this should already be fixed, if not available yet it will be soon.
B: automatic file extensions
 - should already be fixed
B: new folder is missing
 - I am looking into it, but currently have no fix
B: checkboxes with no text
 - I have a fix that works around this and provides text, the strange thing is that when using a style other than Oxygen, there is text
B: menus don't have text
 - related to the checkboxes with no text, but I don't have a fix for this other than not using Oxygen style
B: moving folder to places causes crash
 - I have a fix for this and will provide patches to maintainers soon
B: file names with # cannot be used
 - seemed to work fine for me
B: export from Draw, no filters visible, only "All Files"
 - I will look into this and should be able to resolve it
B: inserting images, the 'All Images' filter does not work
 - I will look into it and should be able to fix this
 - as a workaround you can manually clear the filter area
B: saving 'my.file.example.odt' just saves as 'my'
 - worked for me, the autoextension fix might have also solved this

So this leaves a total of 4 outstanding bugs:
B: new folder is missing
B: menus don't have text
B: export from Draw, no filters visible, only "All Files"
B: inserting images, the 'All Images' filter does not work

The last two I should be able to fix. I cannot confirm a fix for the first two as I have been trying to resolve that for some time now.

I was told that some people were able to see menus with text...but I myself cannot confirm this as my menus also don't have text.

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naught101 (naught101) wrote :

There is one more problem: duplication of the "automatically select filename extension" feature. see screenshot.

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Jakob Lund (jakob-bebop) wrote : Re: [Bug 424132] Re: [kubuntu] OOo KDE file dialog is utterly broken.

I have a working solution after doing `apt-get purge openoffice.org-common`
and after that `apt-get install openoffice.org openoffice.org-style-oxygen`
-- now I can get export to xhtml to work, which is what I've been trying for
a while (since I installed ooo 3.0 in hardy from some ppa I don't
remember.).

On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 1:40 PM, naught101 <email address hidden> wrote:

> There is one more problem: duplication of the "automatically select
> filename extension" feature. see screenshot.
>
> ** Attachment added: "OO.org-auto_extension.png"
> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/33443343/OO.org-auto_extension.png
>
> --
> [kubuntu] OOo KDE file dialog is utterly broken.
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/424132
> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> of a duplicate bug.
>
> Status in “kubuntu-meta” package in Ubuntu: Invalid
> Status in “openoffice.org” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed
> Status in kubuntu-meta in Ubuntu Karmic: Invalid
> Status in openoffice.org in Ubuntu Karmic: Confirmed
> Status in Gentoo Linux: New
> Status in “openoffice.org” package in openSUSE: Confirmed
>
> Bug description:
> OO.org successfully uses the KDE file dialog, however, it's very broken.
> Some issues:
>
> - The default directory is one higher in the hierarchy than it should be
> (for instance, it starts in /home. After you save, the next save defaults to
> one directory above that)
> - Automatic file extensions don't work
> - Some buttons (like 'New folder') are missing
> - The checkboxes below the file picker widget have no text
> - The settings menu has no text.
>

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Jonathan Riddell (jr) wrote :

downgrading to Medium, it's not a critical issue

Changed in openoffice.org (Ubuntu Karmic):
importance: Critical → Medium
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Jonathan Riddell (jr) wrote :

Most of the fixes are in the package now

21:33 < ccheney> Riddell: all except the ones sent this morning

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Kalinda (kate-baggins) wrote :

As a non-Kubuntu user, I'm wondering if I'll get the bug fixes by downloading the latest OpenOffice SVN/GIT/whatever or if they are simply Kubuntu-only?

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Murz (murznn) wrote :

I have updated to latest version today and this bugs is still here:
 - When I try to "Save as" file with dots in filename, kde dialog cuts the filename to the first dot.
 - Some buttons (like 'New folder') are missing
 - automatically select filename extension checkbox is double times in window

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Alex (alex-kostjukov) wrote :

Can confirm this bug on Kubuntu Jaunty running kde 4.3.2 or 4.2.4 with openoffice.org-kde 1:3.1.1-1ubuntu1~jaunty1, using russian locale ru_RU.UTF-8

Martin Pitt (pitti)
Changed in openoffice.org (Ubuntu Karmic):
milestone: ubuntu-9.10 → none
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Murz (murznn) wrote :

New problem - OOo Calc saves wrong xls when openoffice.org-kde package is installed! without it - saves correctly.
Example:
- Install openoffice-kde in Karmic
- Open OOo Calc
- Create new file, type "тест" (in russian letters) in cell A1.
- File - Save as, select "Microsoft Excel 97/2000/XP (.xls)", press Save, Keep format.
- Open this xls file in Microsoft Office Excel 2003.
We see "????" in cell A1

- remove openoffice-kde in Karmic
- Open OOo Calc
- Create new file, type "тест" (in russian letters) in cell A1.
- File - Save as, select "Microsoft Excel 97/2000/XP (.xls)", press Save, Keep format.
- Open this xls file in Microsoft Office Excel 2003.
We see "тест" in cell A1

Attached file test3.xls is created with openoffice-kde is installed, test4.xls - with removed.

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Murz (murznn) wrote :
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Murz (murznn) wrote :

Same problem when try to open this files with ooo (with or without kde) installed in Karmic on this machine.
The problem stay when I try to open normal ods file and save it to xls via karmic ooo+kde. Source file is attached.

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MadAGu (madagu) wrote :

same happens here when i am trying to save an .xls with greek characters , although when i am trying to save in .ods everything works fine. Also i can't create a database with oobase , when i finish the wizard no file is created and i am returned back to the final step of the wizard

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Christian Schürer-Waldheim (quincunx) wrote :

I've observed the same problem in the writer part. It saves in an old MS word format (although e.g. Word 2003 was selected) which causes the loss of e.g. German umlauts or the €-symbol (probably any non ASCII character).

------- Original message -------
> From: Murz <email address hidden>
> To: <email address hidden>
> Sent: 15.10.'09, 17:20
>
> New problem - OOo Calc saves wrong xls when openoffice.org-kde package is installed! without it - saves correctly.
> Example:
> - Install openoffice-kde in Karmic
> - Open OOo Calc
> - Create new file, type "тест" (in russian letters) in cell A1.
> - File - Save as, select "Microsoft Excel 97/2000/XP (.xls)", press Save, Keep format.
> - Open this xls file in Microsoft Office Excel 2003.
> We see "????" in cell A1
>
> - remove openoffice-kde in Karmic
> - Open OOo Calc
> - Create new file, type "тест" (in russian letters) in cell A1.
> - File - Save as, select "Microsoft Excel 97/2000/XP (.xls)", press Save, Keep format.
> - Open this xls file in Microsoft Office Excel 2003.
> We see "тест" in cell A1
>
> Attached file test3.xls is created with openoffice-kde is installed,
> test4.xls - with removed.
>
> ** Attachment added: "test3.xls is created with openoffice-kde is installed"
> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/33738101/test3.xls
>
> --
> [kubuntu] OOo KDE file dialog is utterly broken.
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/424132
> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> of the bug.
>
> Status in “kubuntu-meta” package in Ubuntu: Invalid
> Status in “openoffice.org” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed
> Status in kubuntu-meta in Ubuntu Karmic: Invalid
> Status in openoffice.org in Ubuntu Karmic: Confirmed
> Status in Gentoo Linux: New
> Status in “openoffice.org” package in openSUSE: Confirmed
>
> Bug description:
> OO.org successfully uses the KDE file dialog, however, it's very broken. Some issues:
>
> - The default directory is one higher in the hierarchy than it should be (for instance, it starts in /home. After you save, the next save defaults to one directory above that)
> - Automatic file extensions don't work
> - Some buttons (like 'New folder') are missing
> - The checkboxes below the file picker widget have no text
> - The settings menu has no text.
>

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Roman Shtylman (shtylman) wrote :

The last comment is not even related to the file picker and has no information as to how to reproduce. This bug is closed based on the initial bug report and further bugs should be files separately instead of this 'catch-all' bug.

Changed in openoffice.org (Ubuntu Karmic):
status: Confirmed → Fix Committed
Jonathan Riddell (jr)
Changed in openoffice.org (Ubuntu Karmic):
status: Fix Committed → Fix Released
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Roland Hughes (original-seasoned-geek) wrote :

Someone changed this to non-critical, but it is a looooooooooooooong way from
being either closed or shippable.

On Thursday 15 October 2009 10:37:29 am Christian Schürer-Waldheim wrote:
> I've observed the same problem in the writer part. It saves in an old MS
> word format (although e.g. Word 2003 was selected) which causes the loss
> of e.g. German umlauts or the €-symbol (probably any non ASCII
> character).
>
> ------- Original message -------
>
> > From: Murz <email address hidden>
> > To: <email address hidden>
> > Sent: 15.10.'09, 17:20
> >
> > New problem - OOo Calc saves wrong xls when openoffice.org-kde package is
> > installed! without it - saves correctly. Example:
> > - Install openoffice-kde in Karmic
> > - Open OOo Calc
> > - Create new file, type "тест" (in russian letters) in cell A1.
> > - File - Save as, select "Microsoft Excel 97/2000/XP (.xls)", press Save,
> > Keep format. - Open this xls file in Microsoft Office Excel 2003.
> > We see "????" in cell A1
> >
> > - remove openoffice-kde in Karmic
> > - Open OOo Calc
> > - Create new file, type "тест" (in russian letters) in cell A1.
> > - File - Save as, select "Microsoft Excel 97/2000/XP (.xls)", press Save,
> > Keep format. - Open this xls file in Microsoft Office Excel 2003.
> > We see "тест" in cell A1
> >
> > Attached file test3.xls is created with openoffice-kde is installed,
> > test4.xls - with removed.
> >
> > ** Attachment added: "test3.xls is created with openoffice-kde is
> > installed" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/33738101/test3.xls
>

--
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Logikal Solutions
(630)-205-1593 (cell)
http://www.theminimumyouneedtoknow.com
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http://www.logikalsolutions.com

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Chris Cheney (ccheney) wrote :

seasoned_geek,

The fixes for the file dialog will be in the archive later today. All the non-related comments of course may still be real bugs, but some users seem to have no idea how to file proper bug reports and they do not belong in this bug report.

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Roland Hughes (original-seasoned-geek) wrote :

Someone should have changed the description on this one early on if they
didn't want thousands of related problems filed under this same heading. It is
quite difficult for an "end user" to determine if OO saving document in wrong
format is a problem related to this or from a different part of the system. It
certainly "could" be related to this, especially with all of those unlabeled
checkboxes.

In a couple of days I will pull down the fixes. My mirror always seems to take
a couple of days to get a new push. In its current state OO is unusable on
KUbuntu.

On Thursday 15 October 2009 12:31:57 pm Chris Cheney wrote:
> seasoned_geek,
>
> The fixes for the file dialog will be in the archive later today. All
> the non-related comments of course may still be real bugs, but some
> users seem to have no idea how to file proper bug reports and they do
> not belong in this bug report.
>

--
Roland Hughes, President
Logikal Solutions
(630)-205-1593 (cell)
http://www.theminimumyouneedtoknow.com
http://www.infiniteexposure.net
http://www.logikalsolutions.com

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Bruce Miller (brm0423) wrote :

The short-term workaround to this problem is to delete temporarily the package openoffice.org-kde.

You can check version numbers in the repository (at the command line: apt-cache policy <packagename>; I am sure that the various GUIs can provide the same information) to see if the fixed version has reached your repository.

Changed in openoffice.org (openSUSE):
status: Confirmed → Fix Released
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Jakob Lund (jakob-bebop) wrote :

So when can I test the new fix in Kubuntu? I just tried to `apt-get update
&& apt-get install openoffice.org-kde`, but that got me the same ol' buggy
thing (broken file dialog on "File > Export" action)

Regards
Jakob.

On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 4:32 AM, Bug Watch Updater <
<email address hidden>> wrote:

> ** Changed in: openoffice.org (openSUSE)
> Status: Confirmed => Fix Released
>
> --
> [kubuntu] OOo KDE file dialog is utterly broken.
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/424132
> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> of a duplicate bug.
>
> Status in “kubuntu-meta” package in Ubuntu: Invalid
> Status in “openoffice.org” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released
> Status in kubuntu-meta in Ubuntu Karmic: Invalid
> Status in openoffice.org in Ubuntu Karmic: Fix Released
> Status in Gentoo Linux: New
> Status in “openoffice.org” package in openSUSE: Fix Released
>
> Bug description:
> OO.org successfully uses the KDE file dialog, however, it's very broken.
> Some issues:
>
> - The default directory is one higher in the hierarchy than it should be
> (for instance, it starts in /home. After you save, the next save defaults to
> one directory above that)
> - Automatic file extensions don't work
> - Some buttons (like 'New folder') are missing
> - The checkboxes below the file picker widget have no text
> - The settings menu has no text.
>

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Jakob Lund (jakob-bebop) wrote :

(I'm on Karmic Beta, forgot to write that before)

On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Jakob Lund <email address hidden> wrote:

> So when can I test the new fix in Kubuntu? I just tried to `apt-get update
> && apt-get install openoffice.org-kde`, but that got me the same ol' buggy
> thing (broken file dialog on "File > Export" action)
>
> Regards
> Jakob.
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 4:32 AM, Bug Watch Updater <
> <email address hidden>> wrote:
>
>> ** Changed in: openoffice.org (openSUSE)
>> Status: Confirmed => Fix Released
>>
>> --
>> [kubuntu] OOo KDE file dialog is utterly broken.
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/424132
>> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
>> of a duplicate bug.
>>
>> Status in “kubuntu-meta” package in Ubuntu: Invalid
>> Status in “openoffice.org” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released
>> Status in kubuntu-meta in Ubuntu Karmic: Invalid
>> Status in openoffice.org in Ubuntu Karmic: Fix Released
>> Status in Gentoo Linux: New
>> Status in “openoffice.org” package in openSUSE: Fix Released
>>
>> Bug description:
>> OO.org successfully uses the KDE file dialog, however, it's very broken.
>> Some issues:
>>
>> - The default directory is one higher in the hierarchy than it should be
>> (for instance, it starts in /home. After you save, the next save defaults to
>> one directory above that)
>> - Automatic file extensions don't work
>> - Some buttons (like 'New folder') are missing
>> - The checkboxes below the file picker widget have no text
>> - The settings menu has no text.
>>
>
>

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Chris Cheney (ccheney) wrote :

Jakob,

If you looked at where it claimed to be fixed it was in openSUSE. It is fixed for Ubuntu also but is stuck in the upload queue at the moment due to the freeze. Someone will likely process it in the next day or two.

Changed in openoffice.org (openSUSE):
status: Confirmed → Fix Released

Chris

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Jakob Lund (jakob-bebop) wrote :

Well, further up it says

"on 2009-10-15

Changed in openoffice.org (Ubuntu Karmic):
status: Fix Committed → Fix Released "

That is 3 days ago.. I think it would be very relevant to test this before the karmic release. Which package revision is supposed to contain the fix? {I'm sure that information is supposed to be on this page somewhere, but I can't find it :-o ... The one I just tried was "openoffice.org-kde (1:3.1.1-4ubuntu1)", nu luck yet.}

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Vincent DAVY (vincentdavy) wrote :

Hi,

The same thing for me :
the "tool" icon on the right top corner the open file dialog has no text when I click on it.

I got update for openoffice today but they didn't fix this bug.

I suppose I have to wait & see
Stay tuned...

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Chris Cheney (ccheney) wrote :

This bug is really too large, any remaining issues should be filed as separate individual bugs so they can be better addressed. Most of the original issues this bug report addressed have been fixed but I am sure there are some remaining ones as you mention.

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Murz (murznn) wrote :

This bug describe many small problems in one package openoffice.org-kde for fixing which not needs a lot of time for fix and a lot of info. And all of problems is near each other.

I think that group all of them in one bug is more usable than open new bugs, for example, with title "no new folder button".
Will be good to show the current state of all bug list in first post of bug. For expample, like this:
--------------------------------------------
List of all found in thread bugs:
 - The default directory is one higher in the hierarchy than it should be (for instance, it starts in /home. After you save, the next save defaults to one directory above that)
 - Automatic file extensions don't work
 - Some buttons (like 'New folder') are missing
 - The checkboxes below the file picker widget have no text
 - The settings menu has no text.
- Wrong save format to xls when using kde dialog
- When try to "Save as" file with dots in filename in another format, kde dialog cuts the last part of filename after last dot ("one.two.three.ods" filename becomes "one.two.xls")

Fixed on openoffice.org-kde version 1:3.1.1-4ubuntu2 or earlier:
+ New folder button is added and working correctly
+ Automatic file extensions fixed
+ The default directory is one higher in the hierarchy than it should be

Bugs staying open:
- Wrong save format to xls when using kde dialog
- When try to "Save as" file with dots in filename in another format, kde dialog cuts the last part of filename after last dot ("one.two.three.ods" filename becomes "one.two.xls")
--------------------------------------------
Who can edit the first post of the bug? When I try I see the error "Entity-body was not a well-formed JSON document." on press "v" icon.

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Chris Cheney (ccheney) wrote :

Murz,

Yes so lets take that one step further and just have one bug for all of Ubuntu, perhaps use bug number 1 for that and then make the first post a list of all the real bugs (400000 plus) in the entire distribution...

Sorry but that is a really bad idea and this bug is already too big as it is, adding more bugs to it is not usable...

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Roland Hughes (original-seasoned-geek) wrote :

It got too big for many reasons.

1) OO was no where near ready for Alpha, let alone beta when it went out
2) Nobody edited the bug description when it was first file to restrict it to
something they thought would be manageable.
3) Roughly 80% of the problems could realistically point back to the file
dialog in an end user's eyes.
4) The bug reporting system is poorly designed. It encourages users to file
their bugs under a heading which closely matches their problem. Let one
heading appear with the text "utterly broken" and that is going to match 90%
of the bug reports in a user's eyes.

On Wednesday 21 October 2009 04:57:23 pm Chris Cheney wrote:
> Murz,
>
> Yes so lets take that one step further and just have one bug for all of
> Ubuntu, perhaps use bug number 1 for that and then make the first post a
> list of all the real bugs (400000 plus) in the entire distribution...
>
> Sorry but that is a really bad idea and this bug is already too big as
> it is, adding more bugs to it is not usable...
>

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Chris Cheney (ccheney) wrote :

1) Really the issue here was that no one was working on KDE4 support besides Roman and KDE3 support wasn't working very well so we switched the the KDE4 support as soon as we could to get the number of bugs down as quickly as possible.

2) True

3) True

4) True and is a huge issue in that we have no way to even declare old fixed bugs as dead and not allow new comments on them. I get bug reports on bugs that have been fixed for many years from users claiming the same issue (they aren't) is showing up again. Its almost always because the bug details are too vague for the user to understand they aren't seeing the same issue. There generally isn't anything that can really be done to fix that issue except to hopefully one day get support for marking bugs as locked for new comments.

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Murz (murznn) wrote :

Ok, I'll try to found already exists or createnew bugs for each small problem of KDE filepicker, after I install and test the last update of openoffice (1:3.1.1-5ubuntu1).
And I have found a bug about wrong save to ms word: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/424132
Let's move the issue "Wrong save format to xls when using kde dialog" to them.

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Chris Cheney (ccheney) wrote :

Murz,

The wrong save to (various format) bug should be resolved in 1:3.1.1-5ubuntu1 that was the primary reason for uploading it. If it isn't fixed I would be very interested in hearing about that.

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Jakob Lund (jakob-bebop) wrote :

This comment is only about the file dialogs.

I got the 1:3.1.1-5ubuntu1 package last night, and installed the kde
integration again.

The "save", "save as" and "export" dialogs have improved. The various check
boxes now have labels, and the "filter" dropdown is populated with text.
Most importantly, it is now possible to actually save the document and get
on with what you were doing...

Remaining brokenness / usability flaws:

* There is a "Automatic file name extension" AS WELL as a "Automatically
select filename extension (.html)". Only one should be needed!
* Only in "Export" and with the "XHTML" filter: The file you export may get
as many as three extensions if the file name displayed in the "Name" field
has an extension and both the "automatic" boxes are checked. Extensions get
appended one efter the other, for example "test.html.html .xhtml" (yes there
is a space before `.xhtml'). (The pdf filter doesn't do this.)
* When you "Save as" or "Export" files, how are you supposed to know that
you have to select the type of file you want to save in the "Filter" select
box? This is (always was) a little unintuitive to say the least. Perhaps
change the label to "File format" or something else.

Thanks to everyone working on this.
Jakob.

On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 4:55 PM, Chris Cheney <email address hidden> wrote:

> Murz,
>
> The wrong save to (various format) bug should be resolved in
> 1:3.1.1-5ubuntu1 that was the primary reason for uploading it. If it
> isn't fixed I would be very interested in hearing about that.
>
> --
> [kubuntu] OOo KDE file dialog is utterly broken.
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/424132
> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> of a duplicate bug.
>
> Status in “kubuntu-meta” package in Ubuntu: Invalid
> Status in “openoffice.org” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released
> Status in kubuntu-meta in Ubuntu Karmic: Invalid
> Status in openoffice.org in Ubuntu Karmic: Fix Released
> Status in Gentoo Linux: New
> Status in “openoffice.org” package in openSUSE: Fix Released
>
> Bug description:
> OO.org successfully uses the KDE file dialog, however, it's very broken.
> Some issues:
>
> - The default directory is one higher in the hierarchy than it should be
> (for instance, it starts in /home. After you save, the next save defaults to
> one directory above that)
> - Automatic file extensions don't work
> - Some buttons (like 'New folder') are missing
> - The checkboxes below the file picker widget have no text
> - The settings menu has no text.
>

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Steve Langasek (vorlon) wrote :

On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 08:39:41AM -0000, Jakob Lund wrote:
> Remaining brokenness / usability flaws:

I strongly recommend filing separate bug reports for these issues; it's not
practical to track them all in this same bug report.

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Murz (murznn) wrote :

Let's close all described in this thread issues and open new bugs if the issue is exist in 1:3.1.1-5ubuntu1 version, or if all fixed - close this large bug.
My tests results:
Fixed:
+ Wrong save format to xls when using kde dialog
+ Automatic file extensions don't work
+ Some buttons (like 'New folder') are missing
+ When try to "Save as" file with dots in filename in another format, kde dialog cuts the last part of filename after last dot ("one.two.three.ods" filename becomes "one.two.xls")
opened new bug

Not reproducible for me:
 - The checkboxes below the file picker widget have no text
 - The settings menu has no text.

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Pelládi Gábor (pelladigabor) wrote :

I have created two bug reports:
Double "Automatic file name extension" checkbox in OOo KDE file dialog https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/461355
Misleading label "Filter" in OOo KDE file dialog https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/461369

Changed in gentoo:
status: New → Invalid
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Chris Puttick (cputtick) wrote :

Note to people still experiencing this issue: the openoffice.org-kde update doesn't appear to work properly (two clean installs, to machines, same problem, same fix). A remove and reinstall seems to sort it. Specifically this was done at the command line, may well work with kpackagekit, if not close Openoffice and do

sudo apt-get purge openoffice.org-kde && sudo apt-get install openoffice.org-kde

First time the file browser opens after the update there is a little lag, after that it all works as expected.

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Murz (murznn) wrote :

sudo apt-get purge openoffice.org-kde && sudo apt-get install openoffice.org-kde
didn't solve for me the issues:
Double "Automatic file name extension" checkbox in OOo KDE file dialog
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/461355
Openoffice KDE file dialog didn't ask to overwrite exists file
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/463251
Kde dialog cuts the last part of filename after last dot
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/508103

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esdaniel (esdaniel) wrote :

Sorry for the "me too" here but... I followed the purge and reinstall advice and for a while the problem had disappeared however it has now re-appeared.

When I leave a document window open for an indeterminate amount of time but at least a good hour or so and then return to it and go to save it the file dialog is excruciatingly slow to respond to any user interaction.

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Vladimir Kulev (me-lightoze) wrote :

I have a 3-5 second delay on OOo KDE file dialog too after any UI interaction, which makes it almost unusable.

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Marc Puig Pasarrius (modcube) wrote :

Same problem than esdaniel and Vladimir: 10 seconds delay in a 4 core CPU. It's not usable!
- Kubuntu 10.04
- OpenOffice.org 3.2

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Murz (murznn) wrote :

With problems around slow performans or freezes in file dialog in KDE4 let's go to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/590406 bug.

Changed in openoffice.org (openSUSE):
importance: Unknown → Medium
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