"About Ubuntu" missing Debian attribution

Bug #257337 reported by Jorge Castro
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Ubuntu Documentation
Invalid
Wishlist
Unassigned
ubuntu-docs (Ubuntu)
Fix Released
Wishlist
Connor Imes

Bug Description

The About Ubuntu documentation explains Ubuntu to new users, etc. and yet is missing information about Debian and how it relates to Ubuntu.

I think a "What is Debian?" section and a summary then link to this page: http://www.ubuntu.com/community/ubuntustory/debian

would go a long way to fixing this.

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Dougie Richardson (dougierichardson) wrote :

Thanks for your bug report. I dont feel that it warrants its own section because I cannot see a situation where a new user would search the system documentation to find out what Debian is. It could be added to the "What's Linux" section explaining what a fork is and why that's a strength if Linux.

Changed in ubuntu-doc:
assignee: nobody → ddrichardson
importance: Undecided → Wishlist
status: New → Confirmed
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Matthew East (mdke) wrote :

I'm not sure if "About Ubuntu" will be included in the next version of Ubuntu (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Specs/AboutThisComputer), so let's see how that pans out before working on this.

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Jonathan Jesse (jjesse) wrote : Re: [Bug 257337] Re: "About Ubuntu" missing Debian attribution

Haven''t we had this debate several times about the About Ubuntu page and
its reference to Debian? Wasn't there a huge thread on slashdot and also a
massive bug flame on this as well?

On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 1:18 PM, Matthew East <email address hidden>wrote:

> I'm not sure if "About Ubuntu" will be included in the next version of
> Ubuntu (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Specs/AboutThisComputer), so
> let's see how that pans out before working on this.
>
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> "About Ubuntu" missing Debian attribution
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Matthew East (mdke) wrote :

On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 7:31 PM, Jonathan Jesse <email address hidden> wrote:
> Haven''t we had this debate several times about the About Ubuntu page and
> its reference to Debian? Wasn't there a huge thread on slashdot and also a
> massive bug flame on this as well?

I think you probably have the Ubuntu website in mind, rather than the
About Ubuntu page. But there wasn't a bug flame, it was quite a
productive discussion and resulted in this page -
http://www.ubuntu.com/community/ubuntustory/debian. I don't recall any
discussion about mentioning Debian in About Ubuntu before, although I
may have forgotten...

Changed in ubuntu-doc:
assignee: ddrichardson → nobody
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Matthew East (mdke) wrote :

Moving bug as per new ubuntu-doc bug policy.

Changed in ubuntu-docs:
importance: Undecided → Wishlist
status: New → Confirmed
Changed in ubuntu-doc:
status: Confirmed → Invalid
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Connor Imes (ckimes) wrote :

In About Ubuntu, I see a paragraph in the section titled "The Difference" that mentions that Ubuntu is based on Debian and says that we include select packages from their repositories (without actually mentioning the term "repositories"). Is this adequate? Or perhaps we should give a link to Debian's About page [1], or the Ubuntu page mentioned in this report's description [2] somewhere in the Abut Ubuntu document?

[1] http://debian.org/intro/about
[2] http://www.ubuntu.com/community/ubuntustory/debian

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Jorge Castro (jorge) wrote :

I think a link to the ubuntustory/debian page would be great.

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Connor Imes (ckimes) wrote :

Attached is a simple proposed patch for the Karmic branch. I fiddled around with adding extra text to the page, but couldn't quite make it flow without upsetting the rest of the section, so I embedded the link directly in the existing text. I am definitely open to other options if people can think of ways to make the addition of the link flow better. Jorge, if you want more than this as your original report states, please just say so and I'll be happy to explore some more in depth changes.

Changed in ubuntu-docs (Ubuntu):
assignee: nobody → rocket2dmn
status: Confirmed → Triaged
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Matthew East (mdke) wrote :

Thanks for the patch Connor, I think it works very well. I've pushed it to our karmic branch.

Changed in ubuntu-docs (Ubuntu):
status: Triaged → Fix Committed
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Launchpad Janitor (janitor) wrote :

This bug was fixed in the package ubuntu-docs - 9.10.1

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ubuntu-docs (9.10.1) karmic; urgency=low

  * [Matthew East]
    - First release for Karmic
    - Drastically shorten package build time by only building translated xml
      for translations that we are actually going to ship
    - hardware.xml - computer-janitor updates
    - Correction to PhotoEditor instructions - patch from Connor Ines - LP: #355008
    - photos.xml - import window opens automatically on f-spot first use, LP: #209530
    - Add introductory paragraph to seek to explain GNOME desktop - LP: #219972
    - Errors in musicvideophotos, patches from Artur Szymanski and Connor Imes - LP: #359288
    - Typos in desktop-effects.xml, patch from Connor Imes. LP: #357344
    - add missing apt: prefix to xchat-gnome installation link, LP: #356933
    - Update debian/control and debian/copyright - patch from Nathan Handler, LP: #363552
    - Grammar error in virtualization.xml, patch from Connor Imes. LP: #352313
    - Make language in jockey section consistent with language used in UI, LP: #274845
    - Add link to debian section on Ubuntu website, patch from Connor Imes, LP: #257337
  * [Bhuvaneswaran A]
    - serverguide/lamp-applications.xml - improvements to mediawiki instructions
    - serverguide/chat.xml - new section about chat server applications
    - improvements to exim section in serverguide/mail
  * [Dean Sas] - typo fix in serverguide/jeos

 -- Matthew East <email address hidden> Wed, 29 Apr 2009 00:23:20 +0100

Changed in ubuntu-docs (Ubuntu):
status: Fix Committed → Fix Released
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